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Is Boxing Now Very Much Outdated?
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Does watching two adult men taking part in a slanging match, with one calling for 'respect' before they come together in the ring so as to try and knock each other unconscious, do anything to show our young how to behave?
Does watching two adult men taking part in a slanging match, with one calling for 'respect' before they come together in the ring so as to try and knock each other unconscious, do anything to show our young how to behave?
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It's certainly barbaric in concept. The very first world heavyweight championships and the prize fights that , often illegally, preceded them were very crude affairs. Whether you think that present regulations about knockdowns, a doctor always being present, health checks etc remove it from being barbaric in fact, is another matter.
As people have commented, the pre-flight bluster seems mostly staged in an effort to sell tickets and drum up media interest. I find such artificial posturing boring and obvious, and would have thought such posturing tended to put people off rather than attract people to watch.
As to boxing itself, there is no doubt that it formalises and legitimises violence for entertainment and gratification, as well as offering the participants the very real prospect of significant brain damage, so to that extent I dislike it - but there is no denying that boxing training is extremely good physical conditioning, and being able to box offers a good basic self defence system.
So continuing monitoring of professional and amateur boxing, ensuring that safety headgear is worn,and the presence of medically-trained observers to supervise the action, together with restrictions on the length of bouts are all aimed at reducing that risk, which I think is fair enough.
@AoG - Do you disagree with other martial arts, such as Karate or TaeKwonDo, or the Mixed Martial Arts bouts and fights that seem to be increasingly popular? Personally I think MMA is a much worse example for kids than boxing...
As to boxing itself, there is no doubt that it formalises and legitimises violence for entertainment and gratification, as well as offering the participants the very real prospect of significant brain damage, so to that extent I dislike it - but there is no denying that boxing training is extremely good physical conditioning, and being able to box offers a good basic self defence system.
So continuing monitoring of professional and amateur boxing, ensuring that safety headgear is worn,and the presence of medically-trained observers to supervise the action, together with restrictions on the length of bouts are all aimed at reducing that risk, which I think is fair enough.
@AoG - Do you disagree with other martial arts, such as Karate or TaeKwonDo, or the Mixed Martial Arts bouts and fights that seem to be increasingly popular? Personally I think MMA is a much worse example for kids than boxing...
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/// AOG, didn't realise that you thought boxing barbaric; you gave the impression that you were objecting to the slanging match. When did you decide that it was barbaric ? ///
If you had read my post correctly you would have noticed that I was not only criticising the slanging match, but also what it materialises into, that being two grown men trying to knock each other unconscious.
The word 'Barbaric' was introduced by another poster, but then I do tend to agree that word is a very good description of the 'sport'.
/// AOG, didn't realise that you thought boxing barbaric; you gave the impression that you were objecting to the slanging match. When did you decide that it was barbaric ? ///
If you had read my post correctly you would have noticed that I was not only criticising the slanging match, but also what it materialises into, that being two grown men trying to knock each other unconscious.
The word 'Barbaric' was introduced by another poster, but then I do tend to agree that word is a very good description of the 'sport'.
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Is boxing any more barbaric than MMA?
I've seen UFC fights that make your average boxing match look like a Kylie Minogue video.
AOG - you asked is boxing outdated?
I would say, 'Sort of'...inasmuch as it's no where near as popular as it was in the 70s and 80s. Back then, most people who weren't even into the sport could name some of the stars.
But now? Not so much...because we've lost so many of the 'characters' from the sport.
Maybe boxing will mutate in the same way that wrestling did (from Big Daddy and Giant Haystacks to WWF)?
I've seen UFC fights that make your average boxing match look like a Kylie Minogue video.
AOG - you asked is boxing outdated?
I would say, 'Sort of'...inasmuch as it's no where near as popular as it was in the 70s and 80s. Back then, most people who weren't even into the sport could name some of the stars.
But now? Not so much...because we've lost so many of the 'characters' from the sport.
Maybe boxing will mutate in the same way that wrestling did (from Big Daddy and Giant Haystacks to WWF)?
AOG, if you were asking whether boxing should be banned now, as it is what you 'tend to think' of as barbaric, why did you bother to post about the pre-fight slanging match at all? If you object to boxing in itself, the preliminaries to this particular bout are irrelevant, aren't they? You would have asked whether boxing should be banned, wouldn't you? That's why I, as you now say, misread your post; I had assumed you weren't asking boxing being banned as outdated.
Or do you not want it banned , but object to the behaviour of these two individuals before their bout as setting a bad example?
Or do you not want it banned , but object to the behaviour of these two individuals before their bout as setting a bad example?
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triggerhappy - "What is wrong with a little bit of barbaric?"
That sounds like a nice post-modern soundbite for a Friday afternoon.
What's wrong with it? The clue is in the word 'barbaric'. You can't ascribe a degree to the word barbaric - something is either barbaric, or it's not - in this case, it definitely is.
Don't let your apparent attempt to be trendy trip up your argument.
That sounds like a nice post-modern soundbite for a Friday afternoon.
What's wrong with it? The clue is in the word 'barbaric'. You can't ascribe a degree to the word barbaric - something is either barbaric, or it's not - in this case, it definitely is.
Don't let your apparent attempt to be trendy trip up your argument.
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