Is Offering A Reward For Dobbing Justified?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-25181326
Even for DD at Xmas?

[Zacs-Master]

fact: If you had relatives who died in concentration camps you would, in all likelyhood, be offended by the use of the swastika image conveying that such a regime existed or was beginning to emerge again.
fact: this site is commercial. Advertisers would not like their image appearing next to the suggestion of a swastika.

As for the philosopher stuff.....take more water with it.

[joggerjayne]

// It is only an avatar and a clever one, it cannot hurt people //

Up to a point, I can see why the objectors might think that the avatar could hurt someone.

You could save the page, print it off, snip out the avatar, and poke someone in the eye with it.

[andy-hughes]

I dislike the principle of reporting crime for financial reward.

Taken logically, I could be clearing a grand a night if I was willing to spend the time and mobile phone credit - which I am not, but that is the sort of thinking that this is encouraging.

I think we should encourage people to be aware of the wider society in which they live, which would mean that reporting people for reward is not seen as acceptable, but then, neither is drinking and driving.

[joggerjayne]

If I had had such a relative, would I be offended by the use of an image suggesting that an authoritarian regime was starting to emerge?

Or would I want anyone and everyone to shout it from the rooftops, and point it out?

In Germany, everyone ignored it and turned a blind eye and, the next thing they knew, it was too late.

It may be the case that if any organisation started to display authoritarian tendencies, I would want the whole world to shout loudly, protest (as TTT is doing) and say Cant you see what's happening, guys!!!!!!!

Or we can sit back quietly, and wait for the next authoritarian regime to emerge.

Does anyone think the EC is not becoming authoritarian?

Well, I'm off to buy a gallon of petrol. Oh, sorry, the EC won't let me buy it in gallons.

I'll have to settle for a pint of milk. Sorry, I mean 568ml.

[Zacs-Master]

Bit of a jump from pints and gallons (in favour of a much more sensible system of quantifying things), to the attempted annihilation of a race of people and the genetic manipulation of another.

[AB Editor]

Hi TTT - I can see you've not picked up my message on this thread yet. I'm deactivating your avatar for the time being (not banning it). When you have a chance to change it, it would be much appreciated.

I personally think the use of the Nazi flag is a bit inappropriate - and if I was going to make your point I would have opted for something like this underneath instead: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wappen_Deutsches_Reich_-_Reichsadler_1889.svg

All the best,

Ed

[joggerjayne]

The big U Turn post ...

Now that Andy has pointed out the possibility of earning a grand a night, I've completely changed my mind.

I could sit in the pub, having a drink, and just rat out people as they go to the car park.

I presume it's tax free?

Although the Revenue might argue, if you did it often enough, that you were carrying on business as a dobber, and it should be taxed as earned income.

I suppose my earning capacity would be hampered by the fact that none of the pubs I go to have got car parks.

I'd have to go to a pub further afield.

But then I'd have to drive home.

Damn.

[joggerjayne]

Ed's link is a picture of a bird that's been run over.

[vulcan42]

I thought offering money as an inducement was bribery, are the police allowed to bribe the public? If they really wanted to stop D&D then an instant life driving ban would do it.

[Zacs-Master]

I think the 'repeat offenders' statistics might indicate otherwise Vulcan.

[joggerjayne]

The drawback with a lifetime ban is that it would encourage drivers to try and get away if they were being pulled over.

[vulcan42]

people re offend because the punishment wasn't severe enough to begin with, hit them hard enough and they won't get a chance to re offend.

[jno]

then trying to escape should attract a lengthy prison sentence as well.

Imagine how much sweeter the air of England would be with a a few thousand bad drivers locked up for a couple of years.