Will Even More Drive Around Untaxed Now?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2518477/Death-tax-disc-You-wont-need-windscreen-pay.html

[mikey4444]

No, just an ordinary housing estate. We occasionally see a PCO but I can honestly say I can't remember the last time I saw a real Plod. Now on the M4 in South Wales...well, thats a very different kettle of fish !

[VHG]

>>>Traffic Wardens point is a valid one, I think. They do stroll about looking at car windows....

In my High Street the other day I pointed out to a local traffic warden (parking enforcement officer) a car with an out of date car tax.

He said he could not do anything about it as it was a police mater.

[LazyGun]

@ymb Yes, thats a fair point. I had forgotten about the ubiquity of ANPR and was thinking of the world as it was a decade or more ago :)

[Gromit]

Police check if a vehicle is taxed via the comuter, so the whole rigmorale of issuing paper is wasteful and unnecessary.

The chances of getting away with driving an untaxed vehicle are very high at the moment. I doubt the abolishion of the paper disk will make any difference.

[charlieuniform3]

The police do not currently need to look at your tax disc to know it is out of date - it pops up on their in car computer and tells them it is out of date!

[sir.prize]

But the do-gooders in the community who currently report cars with out-of-date tax discs - or no discs - will become redundant. Will abolishing the tax disc make things better - I doubt it.

[youngmafbog]

No, it wont get better (apart from the cost and a fair few trees saved) but I can't see it getting worse.

I am sure ANPR systems will grow over teh coming years because as Gromit pints out your chances of getting away with it are pretty high at the moment. I suspect they will be in stalled in car parks and other such places where a panda car can be called to (automatically) and easily grab the car,eventually.

[modeller]

A friend of mine was so fed up with untaxed cars blocking his road that he complained to the police, who did nothing about. So after a week he made a list of 28 untaxed cars and gave it to them. They still did nothing.
He then told them that he was going to give the list to the newspaper.
That worked ! 24 hours later there were 4 officers walking up and down the road taking down details.

[ToraToraTora]

tax disc has meant nothing for 10 years,nothing to see here.

[charlieuniform3]

I reported an untaxed car on a Wednesday afternoon at 2pm, by the friday it was removed - they have to give it 24 hours after ticketing it to see if they move it.

[anotheoldgit]

/// He said he could not do anything about it as it was a police mater. ///

I always thought that for a long time now it has been a DVLA matter.

[Zeuhl]

/ I always thought that for a long time now it has been a DVLA matter. /

The DVLA don't have any enforcement officers

The police do.

Many 'traffic wardens' are employed by private firms contracted as agents of a local authority

they have no remit to enforce Road Tax

[ToraToraTora]

there is no such thing as road tax

[Zeuhl]

Quite correct T3

Vehicle Excise Duty

[Old_Geezer]

Big brother is watching you.

[mikey4444]

Not sure why people that report un-taxed cars are "do gooders" ?

If I pay my Road Fund Tax, than so should everybody else. One of the main reasons that some people don't tax their cars properly is because they don't have currents MOTs. I'm uncomfortable with people driving around in cars that can't pass the MOT, at the same time I am on the road.

[bazwillrun]

hes not doing this to make your life easier in any way......
you can bet yor last penny that there are plans afoot to make sure that even more surveillance will be used brought in on the back of this and this is the excuse they will use...and then there will be mission creep and the surveillance will be extended and muc more high tec gear will be used...fart in your car and the will know

governments always have a reason for doing things like this its not altruism thats for sure

[Zeuhl]

^
Well for one thing...

with ANPR it's a shorter step to variable duty based on road usage
which paves the way for road pricing

[Old_Geezer]

It's Road Fund Licence, but some time ago they tried a financial sleight of hand, changed the name, and then tried to make out you weren't paying for the road at all, even though it's obvious that was the justification, the only possible justification. So no one is fooled, not that they can do anything about it as tax is stolen for the drivers to pay for other things. Of course that also paves the way for daylight robbery such as the so called congestion charge, which effectively is getting you to pay for what you have already paid for many times over. Cash cow or what ? And of course every now and again they bring up the subject of charging you per mile. They have no morality when it comes to demanding money, no care for fairness.