A Bit Ott?

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25258233

[Zacs-Master]

I suppose if you're in politics you have a bit more of an intense view of his contribution to the world stage so it's probably not OTT for them TTT.

[youngmafbog]

In the circumstances no.

If they do nothing the left will make capital on it.

[youngmafbog]

I can just imagine the 'cold hearted tories' posts on here if they didnt !!!

And in the Guardian, Independant and that politically neutral company The BBC.

[Old_Geezer]

Anything to do with the famous is well OTT.
At least the guy achieved something worthwhile.

[ToraToraTora]

what did he acheive world wide? He got out of jail and did a reasonable job as president of South Africa. What did he do beyond that?

[Zacs-Master]

You are joking, right?

[ToraToraTora]

I don't remember a parliamentary commemoration for Ronnie Reagan, or indeed any former US president.

[youngmafbog]

I suppose you could say he has been a figurehead for Black movements. There's a few of them around the world.

Wonder if you would be famous and lauded on here if you over threw a lefty government and then were the figurehead of a white movement ?

[ToraToraTora]

enlighten me zacs

[Zacs-Master]

Enlighten yourself.

[ToraToraTora]

Not interested, if it's so obscure it requires research then it's hardly worth the effort.

[Zacs-Master]

Then why post a question where you have to have a little knowledge about the subject to appreciate the answers?
For a start he won the Nobel peace prize. They don't give them out in cornflake packets.

[youngmafbog]

For achieving some sort of peace in a single country. Not world wide, so I think TTT still has a point.

[ToraToraTora]

yes shared with DeKlerk for birthing the New SA, what has he done world wide?

[Zacs-Master]

How can he have a point when he knows nothing about the subject? And as for your 'in a single country. Not world wide' comment..............I don't know of anyone who has achieved world peace......do you?

[Zacs-Master]

Crazy logic. I'm wasting my time here. offski.........

[ToraToraTora]

You mentioned he had a world wide effect, I was merely trying to get some idea of what sorts of things. I never mentioned world Peace. You seem to be having a tizzy rather than actually contributing to the discussion.

[youngmafbog]

Zacs

TTT wrote

//what did he acheive world wide? He got out of jail and did a reasonable job as president of South Africa. What did he do beyond that? //

You wrote

//You are joking, right?//

and followed up with

//For a start he won the Nobel peace prize. They don't give them out in cornflake packets. //

He got the prize for a single country, TTT asked what he had done world wide, the Nobel prize does not answer that. It has nothing to do with anyone achieving world peace and I never said that.

Calm down and read what people write.

[Kromovaracun]

"did a reasonable job as president of South Africa."

Well, he brought the country back from the brink of civil war, put a basic welfare state in place where there was none before, and essentially gave the country a new future.

Worldwide is harder to answer because his impact was a more abstract 'leading by example' sort of way. Having displayed compassion and forgiveness in an extremely public position when he could just as easily have chosen the alternative, he gave the world an exemplar statesman. A lot of his worldwide impact was essentially how other people chose to perceive him and honour his achievements than anything he actively did.

I agree though, I don't really the gushing-ness of the tributes to him that are coming out.