Question Time (Yet Again)

[New Judge]

Why is it that whenever QT visits Scotland almost the entire programme is devoted to solely Scottish matters. There was a programme a few months ago which concentrated almost exclusively on Scottish Independence. Now, having been watching it for twenty minutes, the Dundee edition is heading the same way.

Programmes from England usually cover general issues of interest to the entire UK. The Scots make up only about 5% of the UK population. For the other 95% the Scottish issue is of little interest and something over which they have no control. Is it time for a separate QT for the minority components where they can prattle on to their hearts' content about matters of no interest to anybody else?

[Mojo-Jo-Jo]

Right then people, so your best argument against TTT's stance is that he karnt spel. Not really a very solid argument is it?
Now don't get me wrong, I agree with TTT approximately never, but really, tsk!

[CokeTulip]

That was the impression I got too and it was so heavy and I didn't enjoy it as I had little interest in the panel or content so I switched off.

[FredPuli43]

Never mind, NJ. Perhaps, one day, they will have a QT from Surbiton.

[youngmafbog]

Perhaps they should hold one in Bradford or Leicester.

Now that should get some comments on here !!

TTT, just to clarify, I think you are smack on for sweaties south of the border who whine continually, however go north of the border and I have always found them a great bunch. So perhaps independence and them all going back up again will be much better (A bit like your farmers).

[AB Editor]

Morning.

Isn't the point that, even if it's an issue which the English won't get to vote on, it does effect us.

[AB Editor]

You've also reminded me to change the logo for Burns night. Ta.

[emmie]

i rarely watch it these days, its usually a moan fest about something or other, or the panel are like a bunch of squabbling 5 year olds. if they centre on Scottish independence, why don't they simply say that is what it will be about, then you can choose to watch or not.

[Quizmonster]

NJ, I recall an occasion a year or so ago, when you and I contributed several times - on opposite sides - to a particular thread; indeed, I believe you yourself were the OP. I am at a loss, therefore, why you now claim, "For the other 95% - including you, presumably) - the Scottish issue is of little interest"
Guess what the thread was about...Scottish independence! Why the loss of interest?

[AB Editor]

I'm the same emmie. If I do what I cringe my way through, there's not much else for it.

[Slapshot]

Now as we Scots are always portrayed as Anti English..... this thread does the opposite...keep the bigotry flying folks it what makes us all BRITISH!!

[mikey4444]

The forthcoming vote on Scottish independence is probably the most important constitutional issue to face Great Britain in a long while. Also, there was a by-election for the Scottish Parliament going on yesterday, for which Labour was the victor. You can hardly blame the BBC for concentrating on Scottish affairs can you ?

[emmie]

in case some of you are not aware, those living in Scotland as long as they are on the electoral roll will get a vote on Scottish Independence, so that one assumes constitutes many English folk, Welsh, Irish, so its not just the Scots who get to say is it.

[whiskeryron]

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mikey4444
The forthcoming vote on Scottish independence is probably the most important constitutional issue to face Great Britain in a long while.//

I cannot for the life of me understand what on earth is happening to our intelligence, we amalgamate & join forces with foreign countries who for years tried to dominate us & who have won in the end ( dictating rules & laws that we have not democratically voted for ) & now all this talk of breaking up the UNITED Kingdom I'm sure we must be the laughing stock of the civilised world, we had it so good when we had the respect of pretty well all nations & now we are a satellite of Europe. Let us at least retain our proud history of a United Kingdom. God bless our heritage.

WR

[Peter Pedant]

Hi New Judge
My lord.......

the only advantage of scottish independence is that Alex salmon becomes a prime minister

there is no other advantage

[ I just thought I would say that ]

[mikey4444]

WR...you are right of course. Personally, I don't think that there will a yes vote later on this year. But there is a stall a chance that it might happen. A factor that nobody seems to be concentrating on is the hatred for every Tory north of the Border. That is the danger area. Enough people might vote Yes, just to give dave a bloody nose.

[emmie]

peter, the disadvantage is we will likely see his smug face on the tv ever more, if they win independence that is.

[emmie]

amazing that you can so generalise, every Tory, so no Tory lives North of the border, what about those living in Scotland, some could be Tories, do you not think so.

[emmie]

as i have already pointed out, many people live in Scotland, those eligible to vote may not be Scots, nor Scots descent.

[jake-the-peg]

I think Ron, people just don't identify with patriotism and nationalism the way they once did.

Those of an older generation were taught by people for who grew up when there was an Empire and were proud of that and strongly identified with being British and that was important to them and they passed those values down.

But over the last half century or so we've had greater foreign travel, we've had a more international culture reach us through the media.

You can talk to people anywhere in the globe at an instant rather than having to 'book a telephone call' to the States as I remember my father doing.

So as we have more experience of the world our identity as British has become less important to many of us.

Now I know that infuriates many of you who had national values passed down to them and have adopted the idea of patriotism as something good and wholesome.

I guess I'd feel the same if liberal values seeded in the enlightenment and passed down through 300 years were to start to wither on the vine in the way they are in the US.

But that's what happens - generations change - they each find their own values and the generation before gnashes it's teeth

You see in in Roman histories you see it today.

Sorry there are simply no such thing as Universal values

It's not a drop in intelligence when the younger generation doesn't agree with your values - it's change

[FredPuli43]

"You see in in Roman histories, you see it today".

Or, as the Romans themselves said, "Tempora mutantur, et nos in illis" usually rendered as " The times change and we change with them".

Patriotism, if it may be so termed, only exists in the young to the extent that they would fight to defend their territory, their country, against invasion. And they would cheer for England or Britain in a sporting contest, but that means no more than cheering for Chelsea, Accrington Stanley, or any other team they support. The connotation of "My country, right or wrong" or that their country is somehow inherently superior than any other, is alien to them. Quite right too.