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quizzywig | 06:58 Fri 24th Jan 2014 | News
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How is it that some young singer makes the second items on the BBC news? The only people interested in this idiot would be about 14 or under and wouldn't watch the news at all. Another piece of news from the US - a country, most of which, have no idea what the name of our Prime Minister is? Why does the BBC give air time to rubbish like this? considering there was absolutely no mention of the Womens cricket in Australia, who are it seems, are so much better than the mens cricket team who obviously got a mention!!! Rant over for the time being.
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he is a nobody with nothing to say, a wannabee who's day will fade sooner than later.
09:52 Fri 24th Jan 2014
jake-the-peg

And I have nothing against others having an opinion also, but once again I must disagree with you here also.

/// How you rate the 'value' of a celebrity is a personal thing ///

/// You obviously rate 'staying power' ///

And isn't that what the majority do also, or why else would he have still be gracing our TV screens for all these years? I doubt Justin Bieber will still be popular after only 10 years.

/// Others might suggest that such 'Old timers ought to have bowed out gracefully when they still had tallent' ///

Bruce may be an old timer, but then won't you also be one day, and if you can dance, sing and play the piano (note I left out 'tell jokes') as he can at that age, then you will also be classed as still having talent.
andy-hughes

/// I would take issue with the 'multi-talented' label you have attached to Sir Bruce - he sings, dances, plays the piano, tells jokes, and hosts Strictly Come Dancing, but on recent evidence, he is not really particularly 'talented' at any of these things. ///

Apart from 'the telling of jokes' don't you think that still being able to do these things (perhaps not up to the standard as he did when he was very much younger) at the advanced age of 85 validates him to be classed as multi talented?
AOG, have you ever read the Daily Mail online? I have an idea that you have. What do you think is newsworthy about the articles and the people in the last right hand column?

Bruce Forsyth may be chosen as a celebrity who would be particularly newsworthy if he did something out of his known character, but, for what it's worth, he is a man of many talents but master of none. Which of his skills is he exceptional at? He is no Sammy Davis junior. He was good at presenting game shows but the last time he was an exceptional dancer was when he was billed as The Mighty Atom and that must have been nearly seventy years ago.
mikey4444

If you have a Dab radio then Radio5 live is the station to listen to especially at night.

On Thursday night, they even relay TV's BBC Question Time and then afterwards they conduct a live phone-in on the subjects that have been discussed, much more interesting to get the general public's slant on things rather than the selected panel and audience.
AOG - "Apart from 'the telling of jokes' don't you think that still being able to do these things (perhaps not up to the standard as he did when he was very much younger) at the advanced age of 85 validates him to be classed as multi talented?"

That implies that simply living to an old age and still doing the things an artist did when younger infers a level of talent simply by dint of longevity.

I would argue that talent is a mercurial concept, and it does not always stand the test of time - being able to do something less well in age that you did well in younger days does not confer the notion of 'talent' - merely longevity, and there is not talent whasoever involved in simply living to a good age.
I've never found Bruce to be talented...ever.
Brucie was famous before you were born, ummmm, and pretty much before I was too, which is saying something... But he's never had the one big performance, in a film say or on TV, that would etch him in people's minds forever; for most people he's just a TV host, one of many.
I can understand Bieber being on the news, but not second item as the OP suggests.
jno - exactly.

Living to a good age does not automatically confer a talent on anyone, and more to the point, it does not infer that any perceived talent is either improved or maintained simply by dint of living longer.

It is clear to even the most benevolent of BF's fans that he is now past the stage of presenting a live TV show, and some 'national treasure' notion should not blind producers to the fact that it is time he was replaced.
Or to quote Johnson: "[It] is like a dog walking on its hind legs. It is not done well; but you are surprised to find it done at all". Old age and infirmity go together; in Bruce Forsyth's case, you are surprised to find what he does, done at all.
I think my earliest memory of him is Play Your Cards Right...
Thanks aog...I never knew Radio 5 offered so much...I shall give it a try.
Along with Cliff Richard I think Brucie is talented, although I can't stand them. They're very good at what they do; appeal to women of a certain age:-) Since Xmas Paul Daniels has been flooded out & Justin Beiber has been arrested.... Result:-)
As far as Bruce Forsyth is concerned has it not been all downhill for him since the heady days of 'beat the clock' during Sunday night at the London Pallidium?
Bruce Forsyth is a very talented man, sadly his sell by date went years ago, as did Bieber's, didn't his go when he was 14?
FredPuli43

/// AOG, have you ever read the Daily Mail online? I have an idea that you have. What do you think is newsworthy about the articles and the people in the last right hand column? ///

That column is set aside for those wishing to read such things, and are not set out to be 'NEWS' worthy, as a very popular newspaper they also set aside many different topic headings so as to cater for most interests.

/// Which of his skills is he exceptional at? He is no Sammy Davis junior. ///

Obviously you never saw him dance by the side of Sammy Davis junior.

And let's no forget he is a talented impersonator



And please tell me Fred if you didn't laugh at that?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN5fQSZXvys

At 62 I have seen a lot of BF's career, I have never once found him in the least bit entertaining, to be fair he was old/out of date when I was young.
AOG - "And please tell me Fred if you didn't laugh at that?"

Not sure about Fred, but I couldn't even raise a smile.

I have never found Norman Wisdom even faintly amusing either.

It's skillfully done, but so is crown green bowling - doesn't make it funny though.
AOG, being a foil to Norman Wisdom, and about 50 years ago or more, is not a great advertisement for then or now. And the routine is older than he is;it has been one of the staples of augustes in circus and also in panto for generations. And, no , I didn't find it funny the first time it was broadcast and don't now, though my father did; he liked Norman Wisdom.

Dancing with Sammy Davis junior ? Dancing is what Bruce Forsyth had been good at, but putting him alongside Sammy Davis only showed how good Forsyth wasn't. He was fond of doing that; he would have star guest appear and then flatter himself that he could do a duet or dance with them and not be shown up; you need chutzpah in showbiz. It never worked.

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