Terrorist's

[redvanman]

The best bit of news I have heard for a long time that the citizeneship will be taken of terrorist's. now we can send them back to the muslim countrys they love so much

[Baldric]

What happens if they have a family here,
I mean think of their 'uman rights,
surely some Judge will relent cause they have a 'right' to a family life?

[naomi24]

What if they're British citizens, as many of them are? Where are we going to send them?

[Peter Pedant]

Like you Reddie - a govt can't act unlawfully - something that most govts grizzle at.
It is so long ago - 1945 - that I cant find chapter and verse where the then govt agreed not to make people stateless as there were zillions hanging around central Europe looking for various homes. Volga Germans invited by Catherine the Gt 200 y previously were expelled from Russia - and the Czechs expelled the Sudeten Germans and so on.

and so - we can only do it if they have er two.

Knoweldge of International Law seems pretty thin on the ground
Jack Straw as Home Sec just said one time - oops Int Law wasnt in my undergrad course
and in in Yvonne Fletchers case ( killed outside the Libyan Embassy ) int law allowed the police to go in ( hot pursuit) and didnt forbid them.


and I have to say I am not sure that p+ddling around with their passports when the issue is terrorism is the way forward.

[ it is a bit like sending the Army down to Zummerzet to help with the flooding, er wouldnt the Navy be better ? ]

[douglas9401]

Rockall?

[Peter Pedant]

No Bl\adric

They have a right to a nationality
or I suppose more accurately they have a right not to be made stateless
and the govt is under a duty not to creat more stateless people (treaty obligations)

[whiskeryron]

The Isle of Wight.

WR.

[Peter Pedant]

Oh come on boys you cant just machine gin them like in the War Comics whilst screaming Die Towelheads !

after all some of them may be nice towelheads - King of Jordan and King od Saudi immediately spring to mind.

[McMouse]

If UK citizenship is revoked they become 'stateless' and there is nowhere to send them as no country will accept them.

[factor-fiction]

Are all terrorists from muslim countries then?
I'm not sure which countries you send them to - what if another country won't accept them?

[FredPuli43]

The USA has the power to remove citizenship from anyone, natural born citizen or not, who is a terrorist (inter alia). Can we not do the same in future? See::

http://askville.amazon.com/USA-citizenship-naturalized-citizen-circumstances/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=3667559

[Peter Pedant]

Yes agreed McM but HMG can't make people stateless....

[slaney]

A link...
http://www.itv.com/news/story/2014-01-29/immigration-bill/

[Baldric]

Peter, I recognise your attempt at typing my name,

Other than that, where did I say otherwise?

[Peter Pedant]

Freddie - The radio said only naturalised citizens....
[ at which I nodded wisely, and gazed at the dog with a self-satisfied I told you so expression ] coz they would be naturalised from something else.

and also am I the only person to know that passports are forged and falsified ?

[McMouse]

PP not quite sure of your point. Are you saying that depriving citizenship would make someone 'stateless' so HMG does not have the power to do this?

[Peter Pedant]

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Yeah the bill is causing issues ... coz
the crazy Tories are adding clauses to be voted on like
'There shall be no more rain in Somerset this year'

and it looks like a repeat of the commons debates over the Maastricht Treaty which the MPs tried to amend at the Bill stage
with the govt whips saying - it is a treaty for chrissakes....its been agreed and your job is to say yes or no and not change commas in various bits.....

[Prudie]

It's only those convicted who weren't born here - so a tiny tiny minority

[jno]

not terrorists.

Terror suspects. They don't have to be convicted of anything at all.

You have to hope nobody ever suspects you of anything, yes?

[tamborine]

Its still being debated on TV Parliament. *Individuals returning to UK from foreign war zones will lose citizenship on a case bycase basis) IF they are a danger to our state.

As terrorists have served abroad they can apply for citizenship from the invitee countries.

[redvanman]

What about family life for the one's THEY KILL Baldric