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For Sqad, And Others...latest Polls
Found this in the BBC News Website this morning ::
http:// www.bbc .co.uk/ news/uk -politi cs-1826 4385
As you can see, Labour ahead since May 2012.
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As you can see, Labour ahead since May 2012.
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LOl...good morning mikey....... ...knew they would have been good for Labour otherwise we would not have heard from you (hope that isn't unfair, wasn't meant to be). I got bored halfway down. I don't think that anybody has EVER disputed that Labour had been ahead in the polls since 2012.
10:10 Sun 02nd Feb 2014
When asked who they trust to run the economy, the Tories still easily beat Labour.
I think Ed Balls is the big liability there.
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I think Ed Balls is the big liability there.
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@dave50
//As I have said on previous posts, the Labour party is for benefit claimants, public sector workers and anyone who depends on the taxpayer for money. //
Well, if that's the case then we can add these to the list: -
Broken banks: billions
Farmers: 10s/100s? millions
http:// www.the guardia n.com/c ommenti sfree/2 013/jul /01/far m-subsi dies-bl atant-t ransfer -of-cas h-to-ri ch
http:// www.mon biot.co m/2013/ 07/01/r obber-b arons/
"Some of them are millionaires from elsewhere: sheikhs, oligarchs and mining magnates who own vast estates in this country. Though they might pay no taxes in the UK, they receive millions in farm subsidies. They are the world’s most successful benefit tourists. Yet, amid the manufactured terror of immigrants living off British welfare payments, we scarcely hear a word raised against them."
Grouse-shooting moors £37 million
http:// www.ani malaid. org.uk/ images/ pdf/boo klets/c allingt heshots .pdf
I'm sure there are plenty other beneficiaries of corporate welfare handouts but half an hour's reading ought to be enough for anyone else to get the picture.
//As I have said on previous posts, the Labour party is for benefit claimants, public sector workers and anyone who depends on the taxpayer for money. //
Well, if that's the case then we can add these to the list: -
Broken banks: billions
Farmers: 10s/100s? millions
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"Some of them are millionaires from elsewhere: sheikhs, oligarchs and mining magnates who own vast estates in this country. Though they might pay no taxes in the UK, they receive millions in farm subsidies. They are the world’s most successful benefit tourists. Yet, amid the manufactured terror of immigrants living off British welfare payments, we scarcely hear a word raised against them."
Grouse-shooting moors £37 million
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I'm sure there are plenty other beneficiaries of corporate welfare handouts but half an hour's reading ought to be enough for anyone else to get the picture.
Well all things considered they aer not so far behind in the polls and in fact as Gromit points out labours lead has dropped.
It is quite rare that the incumbents fair well in polls during their term and it would not be prudent to listen to polls and make assumptions (from either side) as teh Welsh wind bag.
I quite aree that the most likely scenario at the present is another 5 years of coalition, I suspect that many liberal voters will realize at election time they do have a chance of implementing some of their policies if that occurs. Liberal voters are not usually thick and I would expect most to think it through. They may express their displeasure in a poll but come the actual day ....
And as for UKIP, I expect them to claim many votes, from across the spectrum but I doubt they will turn into seats.
It is quite rare that the incumbents fair well in polls during their term and it would not be prudent to listen to polls and make assumptions (from either side) as teh Welsh wind bag.
I quite aree that the most likely scenario at the present is another 5 years of coalition, I suspect that many liberal voters will realize at election time they do have a chance of implementing some of their policies if that occurs. Liberal voters are not usually thick and I would expect most to think it through. They may express their displeasure in a poll but come the actual day ....
And as for UKIP, I expect them to claim many votes, from across the spectrum but I doubt they will turn into seats.
Dear mikey,
Sorry if I have confused you or others.
I was just making the point that to get a true answer it is best to avoid a direct question as happens in the media or even ab polls.
Your data table promoted a discussion in which the respondents gave their honest political predilictions not necessarily so in a straight poll.
Although you did not ask a simple poll question like "who do you think will win the next election?" the result was a set of answers which were equivalent but more reliable, I suspect.
Indirect questioning or provocative statements is an established technique for finding out the target individual's views/real behaviour used by some analysts, especially certain medics.
I cannot explain more clearly I'm afraid, so if you think my contribution was worthless comment please ignore it.
Sufficient to say that I found the resultant comments politically enlightening, thanks to you.
Getting to back to your direct aim, I don't know who will win judging from your stats but I think the Lib Dems will lose seats as no-one knows which main party they will join if the result is on a knife edge. But that's based on history not stats.
Kind Regards,
SIQ.
Sorry if I have confused you or others.
I was just making the point that to get a true answer it is best to avoid a direct question as happens in the media or even ab polls.
Your data table promoted a discussion in which the respondents gave their honest political predilictions not necessarily so in a straight poll.
Although you did not ask a simple poll question like "who do you think will win the next election?" the result was a set of answers which were equivalent but more reliable, I suspect.
Indirect questioning or provocative statements is an established technique for finding out the target individual's views/real behaviour used by some analysts, especially certain medics.
I cannot explain more clearly I'm afraid, so if you think my contribution was worthless comment please ignore it.
Sufficient to say that I found the resultant comments politically enlightening, thanks to you.
Getting to back to your direct aim, I don't know who will win judging from your stats but I think the Lib Dems will lose seats as no-one knows which main party they will join if the result is on a knife edge. But that's based on history not stats.
Kind Regards,
SIQ.
Dear Mikey,
Thanks for your mail saying ".....it's all clear now..I think". Good then perhaps you can tell me what I mean as I'm confused myself now, pmsl.
O.K. mikey if you force me: Labour! But why?
Stats: Lib Dems approx constant thus making "coalition" seem better. It won't hold up in election so call it going 65:30 to Labour, 5 to Lib Dems as they know they have been treated like lap-dogs to Cons.
UKIP number over 1/3 Cons. This is obviously a protest vote. Most UKIP "voters" don't really want to leave EU. Protest votes are registered against incumbent govt., not opposition. So again 70:25 to Labour with 5 to UKIP.
General: Public sick of no pay-rise for working/middle classes, sick of paying-off bankers debts, sick of real-money deterioration of NHS, sick of "green" taxes, sick of unfairness (only rich can avoid taxes), sick of privatisation.
Labour lead good despite media anti-labour pressure.
Kind regards,
SIQ.
Thanks for your mail saying ".....it's all clear now..I think". Good then perhaps you can tell me what I mean as I'm confused myself now, pmsl.
O.K. mikey if you force me: Labour! But why?
Stats: Lib Dems approx constant thus making "coalition" seem better. It won't hold up in election so call it going 65:30 to Labour, 5 to Lib Dems as they know they have been treated like lap-dogs to Cons.
UKIP number over 1/3 Cons. This is obviously a protest vote. Most UKIP "voters" don't really want to leave EU. Protest votes are registered against incumbent govt., not opposition. So again 70:25 to Labour with 5 to UKIP.
General: Public sick of no pay-rise for working/middle classes, sick of paying-off bankers debts, sick of real-money deterioration of NHS, sick of "green" taxes, sick of unfairness (only rich can avoid taxes), sick of privatisation.
Labour lead good despite media anti-labour pressure.
Kind regards,
SIQ.
Dear Mikey,
Glad my last answer has made you happy - I hope.
A question for you if I may but first the background
You posted the question 10.04 Sun 02nd Feb 2014 & sqad answered (10.10 Sun 02nd Feb 2014) with the obvious and you then entered a personal chat wth him (10.17 Sun 02nd Feb 2014). Personal chat-line complete.
Then Naomi's first serious contribution and so-on for 52 posts!
Sum total, all answers APPARENTLY never considered for best answer.
Question: What was so unique about sqad's answer to make it best. Yup, better than mine agreed and no complaints..just curious.
SIQ.
Glad my last answer has made you happy - I hope.
A question for you if I may but first the background
You posted the question 10.04 Sun 02nd Feb 2014 & sqad answered (10.10 Sun 02nd Feb 2014) with the obvious and you then entered a personal chat wth him (10.17 Sun 02nd Feb 2014). Personal chat-line complete.
Then Naomi's first serious contribution and so-on for 52 posts!
Sum total, all answers APPARENTLY never considered for best answer.
Question: What was so unique about sqad's answer to make it best. Yup, better than mine agreed and no complaints..just curious.
SIQ.
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