Five Year Ban On Their Freedom Of Speech - Harsh?

[hc4361]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2559426/Converts-Islam-jailed-terrorising-streets-Muslim-Patrol-banned-promoting-Sharia-law-FIVE-YEARS.html

[rockyracoon]

No not harsh, should be a lifetime ban IMO. Imagine living in the area and being hassled by them just by living your usual life, it's not on.

[craft1948]

I just wish they'd tried terrorising the wrong people, and got a good pasting.

[baza]

not long enough, scumbags. What right do they have to spout such claptrap.
If they wanted to clean up the area they should come off benefits and sweep the streets.

[rockyracoon]

We can live in hope Craft, methinks they may pick their victims wisely though.

[emmie]

lifetime ban - no messing

[greenrook]

Come and try 'patrolling' in Cornwall. We look forward to seeing you.

[ToraToraTora]

This is nothing to do with freedom of speech, they were aggressivley pushing their beliefs on others using menace and borderline violence. Not quiet the same as standing up and saying what you like on a street corner. We are incredibily tolerant in this country how dare you put this down as some sort of curtailment of freedom.

[Old_Jim]

For one glorious moment I though you meant someone had managed to gag the Daily Maul for 5 years.

[emmie]

they wouldn't dare, they can do it in London because it's such a hotch potch of people, however had someone told me not to come to an area because it;s Muslim or because i was wearing something they didn't like, it wouldn't be handbags at dawn but something much more effective.

[emmie]

bit grainy but you get the gist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2y5n-hAnUE

[hc4361]

I used those particular words in the title because these men have been banned from promoting Sharia law, not from harassing people for which they rightly received custodial sentences.

To my mind promoting means leaflet drops, newspaper ads, peaceful speech making in public places and should exclude all forms of harassment, intimidation and rabble rousing.

[emmie]

nope, it should be a blanket ban, they are obviously not remotely moderates, you only have to look at the footage i posted, some of the words they used to the gay man, to the woman and to others was tantamount to racial hatred.

[hc4361]

For which they have been jailed, and rightly so.

[emmie]

and i don't care to walk around this city and see these idiots promoting their fire their brand ideology, and believe me i have seen and heard enough.
nor do i like seeing adherents to Islam spilling out on to the pavements and road to pray, because the mosque can't accommodate them.

[hc4361]

Do you also object to the Christian preachers on their soapboxes in town and city centres?

[emmie]

strange to say perhaps but i have rarely seen Christian preachers, they might still get on their soap boxes in Hyde Park, but the followers of Islam are much more vocal.

[emmie]

sorry but not sure why this should be allowed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlGHnd_u3tc

[hc4361]

There are a regular band of preachers in my town centre, some preach hellfire and damnation to non-repenters, others preach the mercies of forgiveness and tell us to 'turn the other cheek'.

I am very proud that my country recognises nearly all religions and most people have the right to practice their faith or none at all.
Freedom of speech is a democratic right which is one of the most valuable assets a person has. This right is tempered by laws but on the whole I and everyone else can say what we think. I can stand on a soapbox in my town centre and state 'I believe only Vegetable is the one and only true religion and Cabbage is the only God'. I can't follow that by stating followers of all other religions should be killed.

[emmie]

hc, i don't think that many adherents to Islam feel that tolerance of others religions, whilst Christianity in Britain has been slow on the uptake to modernise, they are doing so at a push. Seeing as how Islam now comes only second to Christianity and that has happened at a startling rate, should make some sit up and take note, they won't of course.

[emmie]

have you not noticed that many who follow Islam, the so called fanatics don't tolerate any deviation from the true path, and sad to say many of these are British converts.