Midsomers Murders Accused Of Their Unrealistic Tv Portrayals Of Homicides

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/midsomers-murders-are-affecting-public-health-messages-9132121.html

/// They added: “The typical fictional homicide is part of a planned series committed by a middle-aged white man or woman who is not intoxicated, sometimes using a bizarre weapon. In contrast, real homicides were almost all single, and were usually carried out by often intoxicated younger men from a more diverse ethnic origin, in an unplanned attack using a kitchen knife. They were also more likely to have a diagnosed mental disorder.” ///

In the quest to include more ethnic minorities actors in such mainly white TV shows such as Midsomers Murders, perhaps these could be cast as killers, so as to correct this inaccuracy?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12741847

[emmie]

Peckham, what would Del boy say.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// I am beginning to worry about my combined influence on you. ///

Well you would say that wouldn't you, am I now to resist from entering threads, or even discussing other's threads on blacks and homosexuals, if of course they happen to disagree with your thoughts on these two subjects, and of course it would go without saying that it would also suit you if I ceased to enter Daily Mail threads?

[sp1814]

AOG

Are you saying that you don't wish me to debate an opposite point of you to the ones you post?

[sp1814]

Not accusing you of this...just trying to get clarification on what you mean.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// Or do you think that the show should stay located in Midsomer, but introduce a new black character, each week, who would eventually be shown to be the murderer? ///

Well not only in this show but in many more TV and film dramas, it would make a change from always casting black actors as the top detective or police chief, or victim of some kind, all in the name of Political Correctness.

There is an interesting article on this issue if you care to read it.

http://www.spectacle.org/1295/blacks.html

[sp1814]

AOG

"it would make a change from always casting black actors as the top detective or police chief, or victim of some kind, all in the name of Political Correctness."

So...you've never seen The Wire.

Or Hostages?

Or Bullet Boy?

Or Bullet Boy?

Or Training Day?

Or Flight

Or the Robocop remake?

Or Pulp Fiction?

Or Jackie Brown?

Or Juice?

Or Menace II Society?

Or Precious?

Or New Jack City?

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// Are you saying that you don't wish me to debate an opposite point of you to the ones you post? ///

Not in the least, I am only referring to your continuous and sometimes insulting comments, if I dare to post (in what to you is a seemly negative way), on these particular subjects.

[sp1814]

Second Bullet Boy should read 'Top Boy'...but then we've already established you've not seen that.

If you've not seen much of the rest, how can you have a point of view on the way that black characters are portrayed in film and television?

[sp1814]

No AOG.

Like you have said on previous threads, I only give what I'm given. If you wish to make sweeping derogatory statements about people based on their skin colour or sexuality, that's your business.

[jomifl]

because all the killings in that show are committed by whites, so I agree there should be more black actors to make it more realistic." /
I am really looking forward to seeing black actors 'whited up' in MM. It should be like the black and white minstrel show in reverse...but wasn't that taken off to avoid offending ethnic minorities?

[emmie]

actually if this were a real out in the sticks village, hamlet, and they are getting very rare, it would be unlikely to have any black people in it, and it's just as unlikely to have more murders than London. Isn't that the point.

[sp1814]

emmie/jomifl

Perhaps the writers could make out that Midsomer was on a train line linking Birmingham to London.

That way, the murders could be carried out by gangs on the way up from London or down from Birmingham.

They would jump off at Midsomer, commit a quick murder, hop back on the train and everyone's happy.

More 'realism' for AOG, more work for black actors and viewing figures through the rood, for the kind of people who gorged on 'Benefits Street' last month?

[sp1814]

Thank you for the link, but as we both know, I've been badly burned by following unknown links before on AB.

[emmie]

i like crime stories that have some go in them, i found the American ones good, been for a time watching old Law and Order programmes, and that has a good black actor, and some very memorable killings...
One of the best British tv crime, police shows was The Vice with Ken Stott,
they have repeated some buts it was on too late. I believe David Harewood one of the coppers.

[sp1814]

Curiosity got the better of me.

That article is very interesting. Especially the point about 'Unforgiven', which always seemed incredibly of odd to me.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// If you've not seen much of the rest, how can you have a point of view on the way that black characters are portrayed in film and television? ///

Read the article link that I provided.

[sp1814]

emmie

You should try to see Ken Stott in 'Messiah'.

It's a few years old (broadcast between 2001 and 2005). It was a bit like BBC's answer to Prime Suspect.

Incredible programme...

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

/// Like you have said on previous threads, I only give what I'm given. If you wish to make sweeping derogatory statements about people based on their skin colour or sexuality, that's your business. ///

They may be sweeping derogatory statements to you, but then you have an axe to grind.

[sp1814]

AOG

Do you realise that article was written nearly 20 years ago?

Twenty years is an awful long time in Hollywood.

Some points are well made, and reflect Hollywood of the time...but upon further analysis, it becomes obvious that the writer is reflecting in the times it was written.

For instance, he had seen Unforgiven, but not Django Unchained.

And he missed the most obvious one - Shawshank Redemption!!!

Anyone who read the book knows why Morgan Freeman's character has the nickname he has, and they didn't even bother changing it in the film.

[emmie]

i always thought he was a very underrated actor, was Messiah on Sky?