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The Blame Game
this is an awful blunder, no wonder the families are upset.
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For heaven's sake, Andy. This paricular individual was implicated in a major incident which caused multiple murder and carnage in central London. You call that a loose end?
lure to address this "loose end" is yet another consequence of the preposterous "Good Friday Agreement": Get-Out-of-Jail Free cards for murderers and places in government for their leaders.
I have frequently suggested that this agreement was a betrayal of justice for the families of those murdered over the years by Irish terrorists but have often been accused of failing to see "the bigger picture". This bigger picture has seen the capitulation by the Agreement's architects to terrorism in the UK. I fail to see how any “bigger picture” can justify this.
For heaven's sake, Andy. This paricular individual was implicated in a major incident which caused multiple murder and carnage in central London. You call that a loose end?
lure to address this "loose end" is yet another consequence of the preposterous "Good Friday Agreement": Get-Out-of-Jail Free cards for murderers and places in government for their leaders.
I have frequently suggested that this agreement was a betrayal of justice for the families of those murdered over the years by Irish terrorists but have often been accused of failing to see "the bigger picture". This bigger picture has seen the capitulation by the Agreement's architects to terrorism in the UK. I fail to see how any “bigger picture” can justify this.
Over time the 'Brits' had, by one means or another, severely weakened the capacity of the IRA. If they had continued with the same tactics they might well have made a graveyard and called it peace.
But that would have left a sullen and resentful minority in a deeply divided society. The Good Friday Agreement, for all its faults, offered an end to violence and hopes of a way forward.
The families of the men killed on Bloody Sunday in Derry know that they'll never see justice. Many of the families of those killed in IRA operations need to accept that they won't either. A compromise is an agreement where nobody gets all they want. But the compromise of the agreement brought what we all deserve, peace.
But that would have left a sullen and resentful minority in a deeply divided society. The Good Friday Agreement, for all its faults, offered an end to violence and hopes of a way forward.
The families of the men killed on Bloody Sunday in Derry know that they'll never see justice. Many of the families of those killed in IRA operations need to accept that they won't either. A compromise is an agreement where nobody gets all they want. But the compromise of the agreement brought what we all deserve, peace.
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For heaven's sake, Andy. This paricular individual was implicated in a major incident which caused multiple murder and carnage in central London. You call that a loose end?"
No I don't call it a loose end. sandyRoe refered to the situation as 'a loose end' - my post was to upbraid him for that observation, and to suggest that to the familiesi involved, this was somewhat more than a loose end.
For heaven's sake, Andy. This paricular individual was implicated in a major incident which caused multiple murder and carnage in central London. You call that a loose end?"
No I don't call it a loose end. sandyRoe refered to the situation as 'a loose end' - my post was to upbraid him for that observation, and to suggest that to the familiesi involved, this was somewhat more than a loose end.
Apologies Andy, it will teach me to read more carefully.
"The families of the men killed on Bloody Sunday in Derry know that they'll never see justice."
They are more likely to see justice than the families of victims of the Hyde Park atrocity ever will.
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(Incidentally, very generous budget. £444k per suspect, £4k per witness)
So the soldiers involved in Bloody Sunday continue to face an uncertain future. Meanwhile Mr. Downey walks smirking from court with his Get-Out-of-Jail-Free letter safely tucked in his pocket. He and 186 others can go about their business without fear of interruption from anything so inconvenient as a criminal investigation and possible serious charges resulting from their behaviour. No £4m budget for that.
This entire business is an utter disgrace. No “amnesty” letters have been sent to Loyalist suspects (or members of the military). Conversely 187 have been sent to Republican suspects, including 38 since the last General Election, the last being sent as recently as 2012. The entire “agreement” comprises a massive appeasement exercise to violent republicans who have learnt (as have probably other such groups) that if you create enough mayhem and murder enough people you will eventually get your way (with a few positions in government for former paramilitary leaders, natch) even though your view is held by only a third of the population.
"The families of the men killed on Bloody Sunday in Derry know that they'll never see justice."
They are more likely to see justice than the families of victims of the Hyde Park atrocity ever will.
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(Incidentally, very generous budget. £444k per suspect, £4k per witness)
So the soldiers involved in Bloody Sunday continue to face an uncertain future. Meanwhile Mr. Downey walks smirking from court with his Get-Out-of-Jail-Free letter safely tucked in his pocket. He and 186 others can go about their business without fear of interruption from anything so inconvenient as a criminal investigation and possible serious charges resulting from their behaviour. No £4m budget for that.
This entire business is an utter disgrace. No “amnesty” letters have been sent to Loyalist suspects (or members of the military). Conversely 187 have been sent to Republican suspects, including 38 since the last General Election, the last being sent as recently as 2012. The entire “agreement” comprises a massive appeasement exercise to violent republicans who have learnt (as have probably other such groups) that if you create enough mayhem and murder enough people you will eventually get your way (with a few positions in government for former paramilitary leaders, natch) even though your view is held by only a third of the population.