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Farage says that if he doesn't win any seats in next years General Election, he will resign. All of the Polls agree that UKIP are unlikely to win any seats at all, so can we look forward to a Farage-free media soon ?
Farage says that if he doesn't win any seats in next years General Election, he will resign. All of the Polls agree that UKIP are unlikely to win any seats at all, so can we look forward to a Farage-free media soon ?
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Ymb Not surprisingly I disagree with you. 1. The LibDem vote will not hold up, they will have half their present MPs after GE. 2. Most of the LibDem votes will go back to Labour, from whence they came. 3. UKiP will divide the right wing vote in a lot of seats. 4. In a few of those, it will lead to a Labour win. 5. UKiP could take a couple of seats from The Conservative
09:58 Mon 17th Mar 2014
If you mean Mr Nuttall, then probably not. The only saving grace that Farage has is that he is instantly recognisable, even when he doesn't have a cigarette and/or pint of beer in his hand. I had to google UKIP to find out who the 2nd in command was. By the way, "in command" is a slightly inaccurate term to use about UKIP, as being in charge of this party must be akin to herding cats.
Not sure Mikey - I feel they might get a seat somewhere.
I always say this, but Farage is the only party leader who seems to grasp the concept of winning the public over.
Milliband and Cameron both seem like this is their expected and deigned position in life - and as such we have to suffer them.
Clegg judges the public correctly (because he's a bully with a microphone) but is hampered by the coalition agreement.
I always say this, but Farage is the only party leader who seems to grasp the concept of winning the public over.
Milliband and Cameron both seem like this is their expected and deigned position in life - and as such we have to suffer them.
Clegg judges the public correctly (because he's a bully with a microphone) but is hampered by the coalition agreement.
"He is the leader of the party that has lost its deposit in eight bye elections in this parliament. He is not connecting with the public because many consider him a liar."
I didn't say his party was very popular! I was more talking about his media/press engagement and how it feels like he's actually trying. Cameron and Milliband give the feeling of entitled brats to me.
I didn't say his party was very popular! I was more talking about his media/press engagement and how it feels like he's actually trying. Cameron and Milliband give the feeling of entitled brats to me.
I could see UKip winning at least a seat at the next General Election, given the increasing euro-scepticism within the British electorate, and it is still far from clear that Labour will win a majority at the next election, so both of his criteria for retiring/resigning are not automatically going to be fulfilled.
Personally, I think UKip are still too reliant upon Mr.Farage as the acceeptable public face of their organisation for this to be considered a serious "pledge".
He certainly has a charisma that the electorate responds to, and whatever else you think about him, he has helped to shape and focus the debate on Europe - what it is for, what the benefits of membership are, what the costs of membership are - all of that, which is a good thing. People should be better informed about what the EU is and have an opinion on what they want it to be.
I also suspect they will do pretty well in the upcoming Euro-elections, and they will return more UKip MEPs. It bothers me though that UKip MEPs refuse to engage with the euro-parliament, rarely bothering to even turn up and attend the debates. This disengagement with the political process might play to their ideology and their supporters, but is not pragmatic or in Britains best interests whilst we are still members, and means that such MEPs really are getting money for nothing -money that there is a suspicion they are using against the rules, by funding UKip back in the UK.
Personally, I think UKip are still too reliant upon Mr.Farage as the acceeptable public face of their organisation for this to be considered a serious "pledge".
He certainly has a charisma that the electorate responds to, and whatever else you think about him, he has helped to shape and focus the debate on Europe - what it is for, what the benefits of membership are, what the costs of membership are - all of that, which is a good thing. People should be better informed about what the EU is and have an opinion on what they want it to be.
I also suspect they will do pretty well in the upcoming Euro-elections, and they will return more UKip MEPs. It bothers me though that UKip MEPs refuse to engage with the euro-parliament, rarely bothering to even turn up and attend the debates. This disengagement with the political process might play to their ideology and their supporters, but is not pragmatic or in Britains best interests whilst we are still members, and means that such MEPs really are getting money for nothing -money that there is a suspicion they are using against the rules, by funding UKip back in the UK.
What you dont seem to grasp Mickey is that Europe is a cross party issue. People from both angles are against Europe and that is Farages main party trick.
Like TTT, I am quite surprised at your continued attack at Farage, unless of course underneath it all you do recognise that Farage could impact all parties.
Having said all that, in by elections people will give a party a bloody nose, they feel safe doing so,come election time they often wont vote to bloody their usual allegiance.
I suspect Labour voters will stay away from the polls rather than actually vote UKIP. But, it amounts to the same thing.
It will be Middle England that wins the election, not you, nor I Mickey.
Like TTT, I am quite surprised at your continued attack at Farage, unless of course underneath it all you do recognise that Farage could impact all parties.
Having said all that, in by elections people will give a party a bloody nose, they feel safe doing so,come election time they often wont vote to bloody their usual allegiance.
I suspect Labour voters will stay away from the polls rather than actually vote UKIP. But, it amounts to the same thing.
It will be Middle England that wins the election, not you, nor I Mickey.
// "Most of our voters are coming to us from Labour, some from the Lib Dems, and a lot are non-voters" //
Not sure the evidence bears that out.
Perhaps he is saying that to:
1. Lessen the wrath from Conservative Central Office.
2. Keep a little bit in with the Tories incase they join a coalition with them.
3. Not scare off Tory protest voters by playing down their chances of displacing a Tory.
4. Encourage LibDem protest voters.
Not sure the evidence bears that out.
Perhaps he is saying that to:
1. Lessen the wrath from Conservative Central Office.
2. Keep a little bit in with the Tories incase they join a coalition with them.
3. Not scare off Tory protest voters by playing down their chances of displacing a Tory.
4. Encourage LibDem protest voters.
ymg....you are probably right but all the Polls agree that Labour are more likely to win next summer. As Gromit and I and many others have pointed out, a vote for UKIP is probably a vote for a larger Labour majority. dave is not so much afraid of the Eds but he should be very afraid of Farage and Co.
This is from a year ago, from MORI the pollsters...
// Looking across everyone in 2012 who told Ipsos MORI they would vote for UKIP at an immediate general election, 43% of them had voted for the Conservatives in 2010. Therefore almost half of the support for UKIP is coming from former Conservative voters (note of course , this does not mean half of 2010 Conservative voters are switching to UKIP as we discuss later). Around a quarter are loyal UKIP supporters having voted for them in 2010. The rest is made up of handfuls of Liberal Democrats, Labour and BNP voters as well as people who did not vote in 2010. //
// Looking across everyone in 2012 who told Ipsos MORI they would vote for UKIP at an immediate general election, 43% of them had voted for the Conservatives in 2010. Therefore almost half of the support for UKIP is coming from former Conservative voters (note of course , this does not mean half of 2010 Conservative voters are switching to UKIP as we discuss later). Around a quarter are loyal UKIP supporters having voted for them in 2010. The rest is made up of handfuls of Liberal Democrats, Labour and BNP voters as well as people who did not vote in 2010. //
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