Are The Bbc Wrong To Ban 'it Ain't Half Hot Mum' From Our Screens?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2583111/It-aint-half-daft-BBC-ban-racist-Dads-Army-creator-JIMMY-PERRY-BBCs-refusal-repeats-greatest-hits.html

[emmie]

comedy is personal taste, so not sure how you come up with the BBC wipes the floor with other channels. Many will like one brand of comedy but many won't, i don't like programmes like The Office, The League of Gentlemen, Benidorm, My Family, Mrs Brown's Boys, but others will.
Once the BBC had good writers like Jimmy Perry and David Croft, Galton and Simpson, those who knew their craft, not sure that is the case now.
I would say that i liked Twenty Twelve it's not laugh out loud stuff, but does strike at the pomposity of modern speak, i had enough of that when working.

[emmie]

i never found them funny, they were a thorn in the side of those trying to get the work done.

[sp1814]

andy_hughes

You wrote:

"I find JC's approach to be totally different, particularly the final section of the show i saw, where he decided to gauge that individual audience's acceptance of levels of taste - ratcheting up each joke to find the 'offence' level.

Now that i found not only really funny, but really clever."

If you're talking about the series of jokes that I THINK you're talking about, I found them both incredibly offensive, and utterly hilarious.

In my mind, Jimmy Carr can get away with jokes like the following, because I know, and his audience knows who he is. I guarantee if Jim Davidson tried the same joke, he'd be hung up to try:

I'm a gay-friendIy act. I was asked last November to judge Mr Gay UK.

I said, ''It would be my pleasure. It's against nature, against God and he's going to heII.

Brilliant.

[sp1814]

emmie

I just think that the BBC has an amazing track record with striking a chord with the general public, producing shows as diverse as Mrs Browns Boy's (I don't get that one to be honest), to Getting On (extremely dark comedy), to popularist fare such as Miranda.

I want the BBC to concentrate on developing new talent, not repeating shows from forty years ago.

[woofgang]

me too Andy, i LOVED 2012, met many similar people in the nhs

[ludwig]

// The problem with IAAHM is that it didn't really have 'classic' episodes that people still talk about. //

SP makes a good point here. Although you remember the welsh bloke going 'shoulders back lovely boy, lovely boy', and a few other catch phrases, and characters, the memorable moments just aren't there.

There's no delboy falling through the bar, no 'don't tell him Pike', no Basil goostepping in front of the Germans with a bandage on his head.

It's just not good enough to bear repeating.

[emmie]

you are going on what exactly, its always been down to personal taste, what i like others may not, the viewing figures for Morecambe and Wise were millions and millions, their Christmas specials had half the country watching, that probably wouldn't happen now, because the population has changed, some more erudite will enjoy shows like Twenty Twelve, others like more slapstick stuff. My personal favourite was the anarchic Father Ted, a better brand of off the wall humour and wonderful comedic turns you couldn't wish to find Not everyone's cup of tea perhaps.

[emmie]

I have tried to watch Stewart Lee, but conclude that he is not my taste at all, i think he does appeal perhaps to the Guardian readers out there, the left wing who may understand his type of humour, he leaves me cold as yesterdays turkey

[sp1814]

emmie

The days of half the country tuning into a show are over. In the days of Morecombe and Wise, we had three channels, no TiVo, no Internet, no X-Boxes, no Playstations, no iPads etc.

When a TV show achieves 14 million views on prime time on Saturday night, it's viewed as a huge success. Back in the early 80s, that was what Hi-De-Hi was getting week in, week out.

[emmie]

which is what i already said.

[emmie]

slow out the starting blocks,

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/ratings/twenty-twelve-returns-with-1m/5040046.article

[Gromit]

I wonder if Perry has considered that "It Ain't half hot mum" has been repeated infrequently compare to "Dads Army" because it was not very good?

The BBC make plenty of new comedy programmes so why show a not very good 40 year old programme? Perry has raked in enough royalties from the licence fee payer over his career.

He should stop bleating and retire gracefully.

[emmie]

he's 90, so one would assume rather long retired. He is not bleating, merely stating a fact, that it won't be shown, yet Dad's Army is on and on, it was funny, whether it stands the time that won't be known, if they don't show it.

[Gromit]

The master tapes of some episodes no longer exist. A view made VHS copies which the BBC use for the DVD release but not of broadcast quality.

All 8 series are available on DVD, so the BBC haven't really 'banned' them.

[emmie]

they have if they won't show it on mainstream TV.

[Gromit]

Emmie,

There are plenty of unfuny shows from 1974 which have never been repeated. They are not banned, they are just not shown because they do not merit a re-showing.
The reason given by Perry, that the show is considered racist by the BBC and that is the reason it is not shown does not stack up. If it was racist, the BBC would not continue to sell DVDs of it.

[Inkspot]

I can't change channels anymore.......times are hard, so I've had to sack my RemoteWalla.

[emmie]

oh a game is it, i didn't realise, what a laugh