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Peaches Geldoff Has Died
Only 25, very sad news.
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.According to reports in the paper - no drugs, not suspicious, and no suicide note.
All very sad indeed.
What I meant earlier 'thought she had got through', was that it seemed she had beaten her demons and turned her life around...which makes this even sadder (like when Amy Winehouse kicked the drugs and then died two years later).
All very sad indeed.
What I meant earlier 'thought she had got through', was that it seemed she had beaten her demons and turned her life around...which makes this even sadder (like when Amy Winehouse kicked the drugs and then died two years later).
DTCwordfan - "...if depression, then why didn't they know/have any idea?..."
As anyone who knows anything about depression will tell you, the depressive learns very early on to paint a mask on their face and hide behind it.
The reason why the reaction to suicide is often 'They were the last person you'd think ... why didn't they talk to someone ...' is because - that is what makes them the very first person.
Depression isolates you from everyone except your demons, who crowd in and fill the space left by your loved ones whom you can no longe reach, and who live in blissful unawareness of your desparation.
When you do reach that depth where death is a wlecom alternative to another sixty seconds of feeling like this, then you are long past communication with anyone, or thinking outside yourself to the consequences of your demise.
There is just you and the demons, no-one and nothing else, and only one solution offers you peace - so you glady embrace it.
That is not to suggest that poor Peaches died by her own hand - merely to confirm that if that is the case, there is nothing her friends or family could have done to see what was coming, or to stop it from happening.
As anyone who knows anything about depression will tell you, the depressive learns very early on to paint a mask on their face and hide behind it.
The reason why the reaction to suicide is often 'They were the last person you'd think ... why didn't they talk to someone ...' is because - that is what makes them the very first person.
Depression isolates you from everyone except your demons, who crowd in and fill the space left by your loved ones whom you can no longe reach, and who live in blissful unawareness of your desparation.
When you do reach that depth where death is a wlecom alternative to another sixty seconds of feeling like this, then you are long past communication with anyone, or thinking outside yourself to the consequences of your demise.
There is just you and the demons, no-one and nothing else, and only one solution offers you peace - so you glady embrace it.
That is not to suggest that poor Peaches died by her own hand - merely to confirm that if that is the case, there is nothing her friends or family could have done to see what was coming, or to stop it from happening.
Ann - "Why do they do it to their children its so so sad."
Simple answer? They don't. Thoughts of children or family evaporated a long time before the stage of suicide is reached. By the time the welcome blessed release beckons, any rational thought or ability to ask for help has long gone, never to return.
So please don't think ill of a suicide - they just did what they had to do to kill the pain.
Simple answer? They don't. Thoughts of children or family evaporated a long time before the stage of suicide is reached. By the time the welcome blessed release beckons, any rational thought or ability to ask for help has long gone, never to return.
So please don't think ill of a suicide - they just did what they had to do to kill the pain.
Captain2 - thanks for your kind words.
I built up an intellectual understanding of suicide as a Samartian for three years.
I then experienced the concept up close and personal after a complete nervous breakdown and three months in a psychiatric ward.
So I do know of what I speak, and my mental health has been hard won.
I think your phrase 'fighting depression' is absolutely appropriate - the daily struggle against the sheer negativity of every thought is utterly exhausting, hence the lethargy that usually accompanies the condition.
The mood swings, the temper, the hostility and apparently deliberate attempts to hurt and drive away the people closest to the depressive are also typical - if you hate yourself to that level, you can't imagine being worthy of the love and support of anyoneone else, so you spend what little energy you have trying to make them hate you as much as you hate yourself.
I wish your loved one every good wish with their demons, you can get past it and live again, you can get your personality back, I feel for you and your helpless feelings and inability to do anything practical.
Your support will win in the end - it is appreciated by your loved one - think of their bad behaviour as that of a drunk - you know you are behaving badly, but you can't stop yourself doing it, and you do regret it, but lack the communication skills to convey that.
Hope this helps.
I built up an intellectual understanding of suicide as a Samartian for three years.
I then experienced the concept up close and personal after a complete nervous breakdown and three months in a psychiatric ward.
So I do know of what I speak, and my mental health has been hard won.
I think your phrase 'fighting depression' is absolutely appropriate - the daily struggle against the sheer negativity of every thought is utterly exhausting, hence the lethargy that usually accompanies the condition.
The mood swings, the temper, the hostility and apparently deliberate attempts to hurt and drive away the people closest to the depressive are also typical - if you hate yourself to that level, you can't imagine being worthy of the love and support of anyoneone else, so you spend what little energy you have trying to make them hate you as much as you hate yourself.
I wish your loved one every good wish with their demons, you can get past it and live again, you can get your personality back, I feel for you and your helpless feelings and inability to do anything practical.
Your support will win in the end - it is appreciated by your loved one - think of their bad behaviour as that of a drunk - you know you are behaving badly, but you can't stop yourself doing it, and you do regret it, but lack the communication skills to convey that.
Hope this helps.
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