'what Would My Old Dad Make Of The Country We've Become?'

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2624678/Richard-Littlejohns-lost-world-The-Mails-incomparable-columnist-born-welfare-dependence-immigration-elfnsafety-asks-What-old-Dad-make-country-weve-become.html

There are many on AnswerBank who dislike Daily Mail columnist
Richard Little John, but maybe might still find this an interesting look back at how things once were.

[emmie]

yes, Izal, abrasive, slippery, not good for anything, especially wiping your soft bits

[pixie373]

I didn't realise it was called that. Yes- worse than useless!

[jim360]

Presumably, you got lucky by still being alive and not developing cancer, unlike the many others who will have and therefore died prematurely. That you, and many others of your generation, survived that doesn't disprove anything. Smoking, and passive smoking, are like bad lotteries. Not everyone loses, but it doesn't mean that you can't lose. You need to sample more than just the lucky few to have an idea of what the consequences of passive smoking are, and it's been pretty conclusively demonstrated that they aren't pretty and are very real.

Saying that your own health disproves it all would be like staring at a 12th Century church, still standing, and drawing some conclusion that all buildings then were flawless or utterly resistant to the elements/ Wars/ vandalism etc.. It's clearly not a balanced sample. Passive smoking, and other health risks, are very real.

[emmie]

still around

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/271466338620?limghlpsr=true&hlpv=2&ops=true&viphx=1&;hlpht=true&lpid=108&;device=c&adtype=pla&;crdt=0&ff3=1&;ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=108

[pixie373]

Lol! Thanks emmie. I might buy some for a treat. Why, er, medicated?? Was it always?

[tonyav]

Izal, great stuff for tracing and for playing the comb.

[pixie373]

Playing the comb?

[emmie]

tony, so it was, like making a blade of grass whistle, you had to be there, or a kid of those times, we made a lot of our own entertainment,
there was Saturday morning flicks in the fleapit cinema, but generally it was outside games of cops and robbers, pirates, using anything that was lying around. old orange boxes for your go kart, wooden bar across and pram wheels and off you went, usually to disastrous results, but it was fun,

[emmie]

i remember that tony, you sort of blew on the paper, and it would whistle, hard to explain that, but all the kids did it, like playing hopscotch, skipping, jacks, British Bulldog, lots of rough and tumble, no one got hurt, odd scraped knee but that was all. selective certainly but i am blessed and cursed with a very good memory.

[DrFilth]

even in the very old days they had cancer

> Prof Davids said: "There is nothing in the natural environment that can
cause cancer." Now that is, of course, not the case. Ultraviolet light from
the sun can cause cancer; background radiation from the Earth can cause
cancer; viruses and bacteria can cause cancer. Perfectly "natural" chemicals
can cause cancer (natural does not equal good, people). <


http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tomchivers/100048031/cancer-and-egyptian-mummies-are-tumours-a-man-made-illness/

[emmie]

passive smoking does, i lived in a household of adults who all smoked, horrible, and worked in environments where the staff all smoked, you couldn't avoid it. Now at least that wouldn't be allowed


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11844169

[pixie373]

I do too, emmie. Apparently, on her birthday, i asked my preschool teacher how old she was- and she told me 21. I told my mum she was fibbing, because she said she was 21 last year. Can still remember all their names - and most of the kids.

[jno]

why would Asian meals be bad for you, Clarion? Japanese are the longest-lived people in the world. The next generation of British centenarians will probably have grown up on sushi too.

[tonyav]

pixie373
Playing the comb?



Yes pixie, a bit like a kazoo.

[emmie]

10clarion heart disease isn't just a product of smoke, passive or other,
its a combination of factors, not least high fat diets, its what buried in the body, the fat around the organs that you can't see, clogging up arteries, i am no expert, but have listened to dietician and doctors on these matters

[pixie373]

Right, tony- very talented! Lol

[emmie]

Coronary heart disease (CHD) is usually caused by a build-up of fatty deposits on the walls of the arteries around the heart (coronary arteries).

The fatty deposits, called atheroma, are made up of cholesterol and other waste substances.

The build-up of atheroma on the walls of the coronary arteries makes the arteries narrower and restricts the flow of blood to the heart. This process is called atherosclerosis. Your risk of developing atherosclerosis is significantly increased if you:

smoke
have high blood pressure (hypertension)
have a high blood cholesterol level
do not take regular exercise
have diabetes

[tonyav]

Yep, I could play the recorder to !.