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General Election Voting Intention
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Who will you be voting for in the next general election?
- Conservatives - 40 votes
- 32%
- Labour - 32 votes
- 25%
- UKIP - 30 votes
- 24%
- I will not vote - 7 votes
- 6%
- Liberal Democrats - 5 votes
- 4%
- Green - 5 votes
- 4%
- SNP - 4 votes
- 3%
- BNP - 1 vote
- 1%
- Monster Raving Loony Party / Bus-Pass Elvis Party / Fancy Dress Party / Other "Joke" Party - 1 vote
- 1%
- I will spoil my ballot - 1 vote
- 1%
- Alliance (NI) - 1 vote
- 1%
- Independent - 0 vote
- 0%
- Plaid Cymru - 0 vote
- 0%
- SDLP (NI) - 0 vote
- 0%
- OUP (NI) - 0 vote
- 0%
- TUV (NI) - 0 vote
- 0%
- DUP (NI) - 0 vote
- 0%
- Sinn Fein (NI) - 0 vote
- 0%
Stats until: 11:37 Thu 21st Nov 2024 (Refreshed every 5 minutes)
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Five facts that UKIP voters may consider before marking the Ballot Paper...
1. 26% of NHS doctors are foreign born. The BMA advises that without immigration "many NHS services would struggle to provide effective care"
2. Almost 5.5 million British people live permanently abroad.
3. Immigrants are 60% less likely to claim benefits than a British born person.
4. Between 1996 and 2011, EU immigrants contributed £8.8billion more than they gained.
5. Most studies suggest that immigration has no significant effect on overall employment or British unemployment.
1. 26% of NHS doctors are foreign born. The BMA advises that without immigration "many NHS services would struggle to provide effective care"
2. Almost 5.5 million British people live permanently abroad.
3. Immigrants are 60% less likely to claim benefits than a British born person.
4. Between 1996 and 2011, EU immigrants contributed £8.8billion more than they gained.
5. Most studies suggest that immigration has no significant effect on overall employment or British unemployment.
they mostly go with capital, you can't schlep out to Oz or the US brassic,
many are retired, and decided that they had enough of the bleak weather here, so Spain is a top destination. you can't retire there with no money, so sell your home, property here, the same can't be said for the millions]
who poured in over these last few years, many have nothing, and know that if they do get help it will be better than whatever place they have come from.
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many are retired, and decided that they had enough of the bleak weather here, so Spain is a top destination. you can't retire there with no money, so sell your home, property here, the same can't be said for the millions]
who poured in over these last few years, many have nothing, and know that if they do get help it will be better than whatever place they have come from.
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mikey4444
/// I had the opportunity to run him over once, in the car park of a Taunton hotel, but chickened out. I am a natural automatic car driver and I had a manual, as a courtesy car for the day. I could easily have said that my feet got mixed up on the strange pedals, although convincing a Judge why it was necessary to reverse back over him, to make sure he was dead would have more difficult. ///
/// I left in October 2008, on advice from my Doctor, ///
Judging by what you have confessed to, would that doctor had been a psychiatrist?
/// I had the opportunity to run him over once, in the car park of a Taunton hotel, but chickened out. I am a natural automatic car driver and I had a manual, as a courtesy car for the day. I could easily have said that my feet got mixed up on the strange pedals, although convincing a Judge why it was necessary to reverse back over him, to make sure he was dead would have more difficult. ///
/// I left in October 2008, on advice from my Doctor, ///
Judging by what you have confessed to, would that doctor had been a psychiatrist?
BlueToffee
/// 1. 26% of NHS doctors are foreign born. The BMA advises that without immigration "many NHS services would struggle to provide effective care" ///
Where has UKIP said that they would ban all immigration? They have openly said that they would welcome immigrants that can be of use to the UK. I agree Doctors etc are important to the running of the NHS, but hordes of other immigrants are just a strain on the resources of out NHS.
/// Almost 5.5 million British people live permanently abroad. ///
Are you trying to say that if we come out of the EU, all those other European countries would kick all British people out?
/// 3. Immigrants are 60% less likely to claim benefits than a British born person. ///
Seeing that there are more British born people than immigrants, that might just possibly be true.
/// 4. Between 1996 and 2011, EU immigrants contributed £8.8billion more than they gained. ///
Should that have been 'more than they cost the the UK'? If so how can they possibly calculate that, taking into consideration such things as increased costs due to immigrant crime, provision of housing, school places, NHS facilities etc etc?
/// 5. Most studies suggest that immigration has no significant effect on overall employment or British unemployment. ///
That also has got to be untrue, look around you, if all those jobs now being occupied by immigrants were to be vacated, it would be easy to fill them with British born workers, thus reducing the overall unemployment figures.
/// 1. 26% of NHS doctors are foreign born. The BMA advises that without immigration "many NHS services would struggle to provide effective care" ///
Where has UKIP said that they would ban all immigration? They have openly said that they would welcome immigrants that can be of use to the UK. I agree Doctors etc are important to the running of the NHS, but hordes of other immigrants are just a strain on the resources of out NHS.
/// Almost 5.5 million British people live permanently abroad. ///
Are you trying to say that if we come out of the EU, all those other European countries would kick all British people out?
/// 3. Immigrants are 60% less likely to claim benefits than a British born person. ///
Seeing that there are more British born people than immigrants, that might just possibly be true.
/// 4. Between 1996 and 2011, EU immigrants contributed £8.8billion more than they gained. ///
Should that have been 'more than they cost the the UK'? If so how can they possibly calculate that, taking into consideration such things as increased costs due to immigrant crime, provision of housing, school places, NHS facilities etc etc?
/// 5. Most studies suggest that immigration has no significant effect on overall employment or British unemployment. ///
That also has got to be untrue, look around you, if all those jobs now being occupied by immigrants were to be vacated, it would be easy to fill them with British born workers, thus reducing the overall unemployment figures.
The poll is quite interesting as the Tories got 36% of the popular vote in 2010 - less than given to them by ABers here today.
UKIP got 3% in 2010
And the LDs got 23% 2010
So, if ABers were to vote it would most likely have to be a Con/UKIP coalition. The Tories couldn't form a government last time with a larger share of the popular vote.
UKIP got 3% in 2010
And the LDs got 23% 2010
So, if ABers were to vote it would most likely have to be a Con/UKIP coalition. The Tories couldn't form a government last time with a larger share of the popular vote.
there's always a protest plague-on-all-your-houses vote. For years it's gone to the LibDems, but now that they're one of the houses people want plague to visit, it's going to Ukip instead. If Ukip did wind up in coalition (which I don't for a moment expect) it would wreck them as surely as it's done the LibDems.
Mikey, according to you the only people here who have any common sense at all are those who agree with you. Statistics can be massaged to produce any result you want them to produce – you of all people should know that - but if there really are no negative aspects to uncontrolled immigration one has to ask why all the political parties consider it a problem that must be addressed?
"I've submitted to the many-headed hydra of the UK's political system and added 5 (!) NI parties!
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Thanks Ab Editor - and of course only one person has so far voted (!)
I count 6 btw :-)
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Thanks Ab Editor - and of course only one person has so far voted (!)
I count 6 btw :-)
naomi...you know my position here. I have never made a case for unfettered immigration, and yet you continue to maintain that I do. Let me make this abundantly clear for the last time....I DO NOT think that unlimited immigration is good for Britain. I suggest that you print this out and stick up on the wall above your desk, so that it is there to remind you next time you are thinking of making the same accusation.
Most of the immigrants to this country are here to work. If our own home-grown, feckless, uneducated and lazy unemployed, like the ones that surround me on my housing estate, were to work instead of lazing about on the dole, spending your and my hard-earned taxes, most of the immigrants wouldn't be here in the first place. But I have made that point before many times, and you ignore that as well, so I am not sure its worth repeating any more.
I happen to agree with Blue Toffee's points, put forward at 10.06 this morning. My father was seen as an immigrant all those years ago, and he contributed to our society and way of life very well.
Most of the immigrants to this country are here to work. If our own home-grown, feckless, uneducated and lazy unemployed, like the ones that surround me on my housing estate, were to work instead of lazing about on the dole, spending your and my hard-earned taxes, most of the immigrants wouldn't be here in the first place. But I have made that point before many times, and you ignore that as well, so I am not sure its worth repeating any more.
I happen to agree with Blue Toffee's points, put forward at 10.06 this morning. My father was seen as an immigrant all those years ago, and he contributed to our society and way of life very well.
It is up to government to ensure the rules do not allow one to unreasonably turn down employment and yet still received benefits that lead to a comfortable life.
Of course there needs to be a good understanding of what reasonable criteria is. One, for example, should not be forced to allow themselves to be abused by having to accept a wage for a full working week that is less than the agreed living wage.
As for employing immigrants, that should be barred until it is proven that the offer of employment is reasonable for someone living here, and that there is no one available who can come off of benefits to do the job. Which clearly means we have no need of immigration at all.
How did a voting poll thread come to be an immigration discussion anyway ?
Of course there needs to be a good understanding of what reasonable criteria is. One, for example, should not be forced to allow themselves to be abused by having to accept a wage for a full working week that is less than the agreed living wage.
As for employing immigrants, that should be barred until it is proven that the offer of employment is reasonable for someone living here, and that there is no one available who can come off of benefits to do the job. Which clearly means we have no need of immigration at all.
How did a voting poll thread come to be an immigration discussion anyway ?
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