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The Horrific Consequences Of The Multi Cultural Dream

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anotheoldgit | 09:20 Wed 11th Jun 2014 | News
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2652927/Sikh-grandfather-blinded-daughter-law-children-thought-having-affair-Muslim.html

/// The crazed attacker wrongly believed his daughter-in-law was 'sleeping with a ***' and that she had 'ruined his family', Snaresbrook Crown Court heard. ///

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//The crazed attacker wrongly believed his daughter-in-law was 'sleeping with a ***' //

Even if he rightly believed it, nothing entitles him to do that. Utterly horrific! Madman!!
With all due respect, AOG, this was a cross-cultural issue that had nothing to do with 'multi-cultural dream' (especially as it is thought of in Britain); it would have happened wherever the families concerned were living........despicable though it was.
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jackthehat

/// With all due respect, AOG, this was a cross-cultural issue that had nothing to do with 'multi-cultural dream' ///

Of course it has everything to do with the 'multi-cultural dream'.

How could you not have cross-cultural issues in a multi cultural country?
it falls into the category of 'its not racist, coz its not white'....
Sikhs and Muslims have a volatile relationship.....it is a) cultural, b) religious and c) there is a great deal of ill-will on both sides over disputed territory in North India/Pakistan.....

It is a vile and despicable thing to have happened but, taken in the historical context of hostilities between the two, it is not a 'multi-cultural' problem in the same way as the issues you have recently been highlighting.
AOG - it appears that you are stretching circumstances to fit your ethos that multi-culturalism does not work.

All it needs for this situation to take place is for one Muslim man to appear to be connected to one Sikh woman, and for one other Sikh man to act in a way which he believes reflects the tenets of his faith.

How that fits in with 'the Multi-Cultural Dream' is frankly beyond me.

If a white British man mutiltes is daughter-in-law because he believes she is having an affair with a Scotsman, does that mean that the 'Non Multi-Cultural Dream' is equally fractured?

People will always use religion as a defence for bad behaviour - that does not equate with the notion that multi-culturalism is either a 'dream', or that it is damaged by isolated incidents like this.
Booldawg, absolutely right! I suppose it could be argued that if these people weren't living in a multicultural society this wicked old man wouldn't have reached the conclusion he reached.
"Old", at 51?
I fit that bill perfectly Sandy.
I think AOG's point is that when you've got different cultures that hate each other living cheek by jowl, this kind of thing will happen. I don't think it's particularly valid though. This is just a disgraceful barbaric thug who got off very lightly with a 10 year (actually 5) prison sentence, for assaulting his own daughter.

If muslims and sikhs were regularly fighting pitched battles in the streets, that might say something about multi-culturalism not working, but this doesn't.
sandyRoe, maybe not so old in years, but a shift in his attitude from the dark ages to the 21st century would do him no harm.
He says "I was trying to protect her - I am a peaceful and honest man and I know I will not have the chance to apologise but I do look to the court to say how sorry I am."
From that, I suggest he is neither peaceful nor honest.
'An eye for an eye' (or two) springs to mind, but as I would be unable to carry that out myself, I would ask him to blind himself to show his remorse, or be blindfolded for the period of his sentence. He is just a monster.


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ludwig

/// I think AOG's point is that when you've got different cultures that hate each other living cheek by jowl, this kind of thing will happen. ///

That is precisely what I was trying to get across, but others don't seem to address it so, they would rather go down other alleys to try and prove that multiculturalism does in fact work.

/// If muslims and sikhs were regularly fighting pitched battles in the streets, that might say something about multi-culturalism not working, but this doesn't. ///

Will it take such an extreme situation to prove that multiculturalism does not work?

There have been other incidences such as the ongoing house burning trial which also proves my point.
There is often friction where different cultures/faiths/races live together......

But that it *not* the experimental type of 'multi-culturalism' to which you are so opposed.......

How would you solve the problem of multi-culturism across the globe, AOG?

//How would you solve the problem of multi-culturism //

One of the best ways to understand each other's culture is to keep on talking. our government could start by ensuring that all official business in this country is undertaken in the official language of the nation, ie English (and Welsh, west of the Severn).

permitting every minority group to use their own language (just look at the recent pictures of signs outside certain Birmingham schools) is just divisive.
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jackthehat

/// How would you solve the problem of multi-culturism across the globe,
AOG? ///

If I knew the answer to that, there would be no conflicts or even wars.
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The German leader has admitted it doesn't work, if only our leaders were as brave to stand up and be counted.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/legacy/haveyoursay/2010/10/does_multiculturalism_work.html

Comments 4 & 6 outlines perfectly why multiculturalism doesn't work especially in this country.
I agree, Naomi. This chap's thinking is more suited to the times and conditions of Guru Nanak's day rather than our present multi-cultural circumstances.
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andy-hughes

/// AOG - it appears that you are stretching circumstances to fit your ethos that multi-culturalism does not work. ///

/// All it needs for this situation to take place is for one Muslim man to appear to be connected to one Sikh woman, and for one other Sikh man to act in a way which he believes reflects the tenets of his faith. ///

/// How that fits in with 'the Multi-Cultural Dream' is frankly beyond me. ///

I would have thought that an educated person such as yourself would have been able to work that one out?

It is not just about this one particular case, this case is yet one more example among many other such cases that goes to prove my point.

/// If a white British man mutiltes is daughter-in-law because he believes she is having an affair with a Scotsman, does that mean that the 'Non Multi-Cultural Dream' is equally fractured? ///

Your analogy is (excuse me), just plain ridiculous.

Aren't Scotsmen also 'White British Men', and why did you choose to bring colour into it, unless you could not bring yourself to put, "What if a white English man "mutilates his daughter-in-law because he believes she is having an affair with a black Scotsman?"

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