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So you are basically saying SH should have been left in power? Possibly but the underlying problem in the region is the same as ever. Slight variations in beliefs mean when they can they fight among themselves. SH temporarily stopped that but in the end this is innevitable, until the people can leave 7th century barbarism behind they are always going to be killing each other, better them than us. Just leave them to resolve it, hopefully in a 1000 years or 2 some sort of civilisation may emerge.
The acronym ISIS stands for the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant - Levant commonly interpreted for this purpose as Syria. (See the ‘Islamic’ there?).
//Iraqi officials told the Guardian that two divisions of Iraqi soldiers – roughly 30,000 men – simply turned and ran in the face of the assault by an insurgent force of just 800 fighters.//
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Topical, perhaps, but while we’re worrying about history and the decisions that Blair and Bush made, I fear we are - very stupidly in my opinion - missing the bigger picture.
//Iraqi officials told the Guardian that two divisions of Iraqi soldiers – roughly 30,000 men – simply turned and ran in the face of the assault by an insurgent force of just 800 fighters.//
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Topical, perhaps, but while we’re worrying about history and the decisions that Blair and Bush made, I fear we are - very stupidly in my opinion - missing the bigger picture.
Presumably it has not escaped your notice mushroom but several schools in Birmingham have been placed in special measures to counteract the Muslim intervention in these schools.The point I was making was that if these hardliners can get a foothold in Birmingham they can get anywhere and before we know it we shall be having rival factions fighting believe me it won't be long.
The formation of ISIS is more Obama's fault. They have formed in response to Obam'as attempts to topple Assad. With US and UK encouragement they have grown and been a draw for every fanatical jhadist dreaming of creating Islamic republics where stable dictatorships once ruled. The US and UK had a fantastic opportunity in Syria and they blew it big time.
Bush and Blair transformed Iraq from a stable secular dictatorship into a broken country, then they buggered off leaving a vaccuum to be filled.
This rabble of islamic fighters have seen at opportunity and have gone for it. We created them, and the conditions in Iraq for them to succeed.
American (and UK) foreign Policy in the region has always been chaotic at best.
Bush and Blair transformed Iraq from a stable secular dictatorship into a broken country, then they buggered off leaving a vaccuum to be filled.
This rabble of islamic fighters have seen at opportunity and have gone for it. We created them, and the conditions in Iraq for them to succeed.
American (and UK) foreign Policy in the region has always been chaotic at best.
A good example of the change in language and tone.
When they were a tool to further our cause of toppling Assad they were the plucky Syrian Rebels.
Now they are Jhadist iIslamic insurgents because they are trying to topple our puppet regime in Iraq.
A lot of British blood has been spilled to get to this stage. Labour, Conservative, Republicans and Democrats (sic) owe the people of the UK, the US, Iraq and the world an apology for the mess they have created
When they were a tool to further our cause of toppling Assad they were the plucky Syrian Rebels.
Now they are Jhadist iIslamic insurgents because they are trying to topple our puppet regime in Iraq.
A lot of British blood has been spilled to get to this stage. Labour, Conservative, Republicans and Democrats (sic) owe the people of the UK, the US, Iraq and the world an apology for the mess they have created
AOG
I don't think anyone has played down the number of extreme muslims in the world.
Thankfully, they are a very small number in this country, but in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and UAE the are the mainstream. ISIS are not from one country, is a collection of jhadists from many countries in the middle east and north Africa.
I don't think anyone has played down the number of extreme muslims in the world.
Thankfully, they are a very small number in this country, but in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and UAE the are the mainstream. ISIS are not from one country, is a collection of jhadists from many countries in the middle east and north Africa.
