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What Is Cameron Playing At In Europe?
This whole Juncker business will turn out to be an embarrassment for Cameron and leaving British Government looking totally isolated. Any chance (if it ever existed) of renegociating our EU membership is in tatters.
// David Cameron has been accused of “incompetence in European affairs” in a foul-mouthed tirade by one of his closest allies on the continent.
The Prime Minister was reportedly accused of engaging in “stupid propaganda” to appease Tory Eurosceptics during his negotiations with the European Union by Radoslaw Sikorski, Poland’s foreign minister.
The attack could be heard in a set of leaked tapes, in which Mr Sikorski accused Mr Cameron of having “f----- up” over Europe. //
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And that is from our clise allies.
Is Cameron really that incompetent, or is it a ploy to make leaving the EU more acceptable?
// David Cameron has been accused of “incompetence in European affairs” in a foul-mouthed tirade by one of his closest allies on the continent.
The Prime Minister was reportedly accused of engaging in “stupid propaganda” to appease Tory Eurosceptics during his negotiations with the European Union by Radoslaw Sikorski, Poland’s foreign minister.
The attack could be heard in a set of leaked tapes, in which Mr Sikorski accused Mr Cameron of having “f----- up” over Europe. //
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And that is from our clise allies.
Is Cameron really that incompetent, or is it a ploy to make leaving the EU more acceptable?
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Cameron is marginalisin
07:48 Tue 24th Jun 2014
I would suspect the second. Cameron has been pro europe, he has to appear to be trying to get Europe to work but it is clear, despite recent clear public opinion across the EU that the EU has no intention of change, indeed it appears to be moving to an even more federalist approach.
The EU has not been good for us up until now but has been tolerable. I suspect it will change to become totally intolerable and very expensive as more countries join the gravy train paid mostly for by the Germans and the Brits.
The EU has not been good for us up until now but has been tolerable. I suspect it will change to become totally intolerable and very expensive as more countries join the gravy train paid mostly for by the Germans and the Brits.
Thanks to the Daily Mail for further info on Radek Sikorski
// David Cameron's bid to renegotiate Britain's relationship with the EU has been ridiculed by Poland's Foreign Secretary in explosive private recordings leaked to the country's media.
Radek Sikorski, who was in the infamous Bullingdon Club with Boris Johnson at university in Oxford, accused Mr Cameron of 'incompetence' and 'stupidly' pandering to his eurosceptic backbenchers. //
// David Cameron's bid to renegotiate Britain's relationship with the EU has been ridiculed by Poland's Foreign Secretary in explosive private recordings leaked to the country's media.
Radek Sikorski, who was in the infamous Bullingdon Club with Boris Johnson at university in Oxford, accused Mr Cameron of 'incompetence' and 'stupidly' pandering to his eurosceptic backbenchers. //
Napoleon and Hitler wanted a united Europe...
This time the European federalists have used pen and paper instead of bombs and bullets, and we have fallen for it.
Tony Bliar gave in to "qualified majority voting" - this was his crowning achievement, better even than his Iraq war.
We have a Prime Minister who, like the RAF in the first Battle of Britain, is standing alone against the invaders.
The UK has a negative balance of payments with the EU, and pays billions of pounds for the privilege.
This time the European federalists have used pen and paper instead of bombs and bullets, and we have fallen for it.
Tony Bliar gave in to "qualified majority voting" - this was his crowning achievement, better even than his Iraq war.
We have a Prime Minister who, like the RAF in the first Battle of Britain, is standing alone against the invaders.
The UK has a negative balance of payments with the EU, and pays billions of pounds for the privilege.
Gromit - "Moreover, UKiP who won the UK European elections, are supporting Junckers nomination." -
OK Farage is a clown, and his party is a one trick horse setup, desperately looking for some policies, BUT he is supporting Juncker because he will perpetuate the worst aspects of EU federalism, and hasten our exit from the whole corrupt beuraucratic shambles, leaving Deutschland to pay for the whole thing...
OK Farage is a clown, and his party is a one trick horse setup, desperately looking for some policies, BUT he is supporting Juncker because he will perpetuate the worst aspects of EU federalism, and hasten our exit from the whole corrupt beuraucratic shambles, leaving Deutschland to pay for the whole thing...
Cameron's plan is:
1) Get a reasonable president of the EU
2) Win the 2015 election
3) From 2015-2017, attempt to re-negotiate Britain's relationship with Europe - step 1 helps here
4) Take re-negotiated position to an in-out Europe vote in 2017
Obviously steps 3 and 4 suffer if step 1 fails.
Maybe step 2 suffers if step 1 fails, too, although neither Clegg nor Miliband backs Juncker; all three (Cameron, Clegg and Miliband) want to stay in Europe, although Cameron wants to re-negotiate then put it to the vote.
Farage, who wants to leave Europe, backs Juncker.
1) Get a reasonable president of the EU
2) Win the 2015 election
3) From 2015-2017, attempt to re-negotiate Britain's relationship with Europe - step 1 helps here
4) Take re-negotiated position to an in-out Europe vote in 2017
Obviously steps 3 and 4 suffer if step 1 fails.
Maybe step 2 suffers if step 1 fails, too, although neither Clegg nor Miliband backs Juncker; all three (Cameron, Clegg and Miliband) want to stay in Europe, although Cameron wants to re-negotiate then put it to the vote.
Farage, who wants to leave Europe, backs Juncker.
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