Why Doesn't The Pm Grow A Pair....?

[ToraToraTora]

What a kin surprise EU goes against Britain! Ok we are going to have this marxist imposed on us....should please mikey anyway!
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-28049375
If I was the PM I'd march straight into the meeting and say, right I don't give a rats ar5se about this meeting/vote, if Junckers is the president we stop paying tomorrow, capiesch? and walk out and go and have a pint round the corner. Ok cue all the anti British...........out you come....

[Gromit]

New Judge

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http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/75858000/gif/_75858792_20140625_european_commission_624.gif

[Gromit]

And the juncker for Commissioner vote result is in...

Yes - 26
No - 2

[modeller]

I watched Cameron's speech and Miliband's response. As a result Cameron has gone up in my estimation and Miliband way down. Cameron had the guts to stand up for this country . Miliband as usual showed what it would be like if he was in power. A lackey to Europe . He hasn't even got the guts to offer us a referendum.

[New Judge]

A jolly fine diagram, Gromit.

In practice the EU commissioners wield absolute power over the so-called Parliament. A parliament which cannot initiate and propose legislation is not worthy of the name. We all know what happens in the EU when votes do not turn out as desired.

[sandyRoe]

If being in the EU is so bad for the UK why is there consensus among nearly all our politicians that we should stay in?

[mikey4444]

Sandy...you forgot to use the word "sensible" as in sensible politicians, otherwise people might think you were including Mr Farage in your statement !

[New Judge]

"..why is there consensus among nearly all our politicians that we should stay in?"

Mainly for the same reason that Mr Juncker is so keen on the idea - because it provides a lucrative new career for them when they have been soundly rejected by their domestic voters.

The EU has many merits. I would advocate ever closer ties to form a powerful trading bloc. Unfortunately that admirable aim has been lost along the line and most of its proponents - especially Mr Juncker - see Europe's future as a single nation state with national parliaments reduced to the status of parish councils. I have no wish to have to abide by a majority made up of of people who have no interest in the UK's wellbeing wahtsoever, especially when the UK electorate has no effective control over the decisions they make.

[Gromit]

// Mainly for the same reason that Mr Juncker is so keen on the idea - because it provides a lucrative new career for them when they have been soundly rejected by their domestic voters. //

Not many UK politicians have taken jobs in Europe after leaving office in the UK. I can think of only a handful. Most are kick upstairs to the Lords or the latest scam is they get themselves elected to the ludicrous job of Police Commissioners. Furthering their future job prospects does not seem a credible reason for MPs from the main parties supporting EU membership.

[Gromit]

I can only think of Kinnock, Mandelson, Lady Cathrine Ashton and Paddy Ashdown who have taken EU jobs. Have I missed anyone out?


There are 650 MPs and the majority back EU membership. Don't think the slim chance they might get a job in the future is the reason for their supporting it.