Simple Answer To This New Problem With Airports ?

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28223150

Surely the simple answer answer is put your Mobile, etc into your hold luggage. And why are hundreds of people every day having to discard their nail scissors, Swiss Army knives, etc into bins at passport control ! We have had regulations against these for many years and yet people don't seem to be aware that you can't take sharp objects in your hand luggage any more !

[ummmm]

I got stopped for having eye liner. I didn't realise that was classed as a 'liquid'

[sandyRoe]

I had to bin a tube of toothpaste. Didn't think that was a liquid, either.

[237SJ]

Put your electrics in your hold luggage and watch them get nicked..

[youngmafbog]

I agree Mickey. Seems common sense.

[Hypognosis]

As a side issue, why is hold baggage not being searched, these days? Isn't that how Lockerbie happened? (also see the recent ice packs thread)

[237SJ]

Hold luggage is x-rayed.

[Hypognosis]

Effect of x-rays on microelectronics???

Effect of electronic device being spotted on x-ray scan?

[mikey4444]

I haven't flown anywhere since 2009 but there were still people in front of me in the queue that were moaning that they didn't know they couldn't knives on board. One chap had to discard a very expensive looking Swiss Army knife....more a set of tools than a knife...you know the sort of thing. He was complaining bitterly that he had taken it on aircraft all over the world, but f*****g Bristol had to be different ! I met him in Sorrento later in the week and he was still complaining. Silly ar*e !

[237SJ]

People get a bit confused because you can take scissors if the blade is less than 6cm or longer if the end is blunted. He was lucky he got away with it before - someone wasn`t being sharp eyed when they were monitoring the x ray machine.

[whiskeryron]

I am sorry to be so controversial but I feel that the whole problem of potential explosives on aircraft is getting worse & I keep reading that due to timing & etc. Only a certain proportion of checks are carried out. This is surely not good enough & all checks should be scrupulously done even to the further detriment of already burdened passengers. I understand that possible middle eastern suicide bombers can swallow undetected substances that can be detonated in flight. I respectfully suggest that all passengers should have to undergo medical procedures to determine whether they are carrying lethal substances. I am aware that this would be extremely expensive & against everyone's civil liberties but what are the alternatives ?.

[ChillDoubt]

Not sure why you'd want to put expensive items like iPhones, iPads, tablets, Android phones etc into the hold.
Dunno about you but if an item is worth £300/400 I'd rather keep it about my person!

[woofgang]

I am not sure what the problem is with keeping your device charged?

[inksplotter]

People forget.

[inksplotter]

Or they use them in the airport when their planes delayed!

[zoe76]

I've been allowed out of the country with liquids over 100ml, say body wash or shampoo but had them taken from me on the return trip. Only sharp thing I've ever taken with me anywhere is my tongue :0)

[mikey4444]

Have I missed something here about the charged/not charged thing ?

What difference would it make either way. It would be fairly easy to program a laptop to blow up sometime after you have boarded the plane.

Wouldn't it be better to make sure that items are uncharged and if possible, the battery removed and put into hold luggage ?

[Gromit]

The reason people use smartphones on airfilghts is because they can provide hours of entertainment, enhancing your travel.

It seems a bit flawed. If the bomber is ingenius enough to miniture a bomb to fit in a phone, then surely they can fake a lit screen with a full charge.

[Gromit]

Mikey

The authorities are worried that a bomb can be placed in the shell of the phone by removing all the working parts, including the battery. So they want to see a working device, to know it is mot in fact a bomb.

But scanners can detect explosives and detect modified gadgets, so why do they need to be checked? I suspect it is designed as a deterent to bombers rather than be a genuine threat that may actually occur. They are telling the bombers, that they are concentrating on looking for bombs in phones, so that the bombers won't attempt it.

[rockyracoon]

Would electronic equipment like phones and tablets etc be insured if they are in the hold?

[sp1814]

mikey4444

I fly quite frequently and all my electronics come with me in my hand luggage, because I use my iPad, iPhone etc for entertainment on the flight (you never know when you might be faced with a bloody Rene Zellweger/Nicolas Cage/Leonardo DiCaprio film on a long haul flight).

As I understand it, the new rules state that the device has to be charged, but not necessarily *fully* charged. You just have to show that it is working.

With regards to sharp implements, yes - I see your point. Since 9/11, I can understand this, and am bemused by people who are surprised by this rule.

I *am* a little surprised at ummm's eyeliner confiscation. Whenever I've travelled, the rule has been "If it's over 100ml, then you cannot have it in your carry on".

One must ask - exactly how big is ummm's eyeliner? Perhaps she was working with both Duran Duran and Boy George at the time...?