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Ramadan And Your Health
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I picked up a leaflet in my local ASDA Pharmacy the other day.
This leaflet was headed 'Ramadan and your Health'.
It then went on to explain that there are approximately 2.8 million Muslims in the UK, and each period of fasting lasts from dawn to dusk and varies in length depending on the season and the follower's location in the UK a fast can last between 10 and 19 hours.
Sawm means "abstention from" this means that an individual must refrain from eating,drinking,smoking,sexual activity,consuming oral medicines and using intravenous fluids.
The leaflet further goes on to give advise on staying healthy during Ramadan.
How is it that Asda's Pharmacy does not issue such informative literature for Christians during their events such as Christmas and Easter, you know the kind of thing no drinking, cigars and sex at the office party and no gouging on chocolate eggs at Easter, do we not matter?
This leaflet was headed 'Ramadan and your Health'.
It then went on to explain that there are approximately 2.8 million Muslims in the UK, and each period of fasting lasts from dawn to dusk and varies in length depending on the season and the follower's location in the UK a fast can last between 10 and 19 hours.
Sawm means "abstention from" this means that an individual must refrain from eating,drinking,smoking,sexual activity,consuming oral medicines and using intravenous fluids.
The leaflet further goes on to give advise on staying healthy during Ramadan.
How is it that Asda's Pharmacy does not issue such informative literature for Christians during their events such as Christmas and Easter, you know the kind of thing no drinking, cigars and sex at the office party and no gouging on chocolate eggs at Easter, do we not matter?
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I think it's perfectly acceptable for ASDA to do their bit in helping visitors from the middle ages understand how to compensate for this month long folly.
Having said that though, Muslims have managed to cope for centuries now and remain inclusive, tolerant and level headed without a propensity to chant, scream threats, slaughter and generally be obnoxious to all but their particular sub-group of their cult.
Having said that though, Muslims have managed to cope for centuries now and remain inclusive, tolerant and level headed without a propensity to chant, scream threats, slaughter and generally be obnoxious to all but their particular sub-group of their cult.
Clearly AOG should be applying to be a moderator,
wouldnt you agree Roy ?
AOG - there is the usual appalling non-sequitur, that if Islam has health advice then Christians deserve similar advice and if this is not forthcoming then there is discrimination of a disgraceful and or unlawful kind.
Sawm may well mean abstention - I am surprised i/v fluids are mentioned as I thought medical tmt was exempt - smoking is out as the verb in Arabic involves a compound with 'to drink' ( shrub )
and of course this is only during the day ( strictly defined ). The issue is that these religious strictures were not designed for Northern Climes where the day can be from 3 am to 9 pm.
and yes Fasting is part of the Christian tradition
but not of todays era.
St Francis 1225 or thereabouts virtually starved himself to death
and even contemporary accounts ( that would be from 1225 ) said he had overdone it. virtually no one fasts nowadays
And the ASDA hand out - did it mention that if it is all too much for you then a handful of dried figs doesnt really count as breaking one's fast ?
wouldnt you agree Roy ?
AOG - there is the usual appalling non-sequitur, that if Islam has health advice then Christians deserve similar advice and if this is not forthcoming then there is discrimination of a disgraceful and or unlawful kind.
Sawm may well mean abstention - I am surprised i/v fluids are mentioned as I thought medical tmt was exempt - smoking is out as the verb in Arabic involves a compound with 'to drink' ( shrub )
and of course this is only during the day ( strictly defined ). The issue is that these religious strictures were not designed for Northern Climes where the day can be from 3 am to 9 pm.
and yes Fasting is part of the Christian tradition
but not of todays era.
St Francis 1225 or thereabouts virtually starved himself to death
and even contemporary accounts ( that would be from 1225 ) said he had overdone it. virtually no one fasts nowadays
And the ASDA hand out - did it mention that if it is all too much for you then a handful of dried figs doesnt really count as breaking one's fast ?
"Surely drinking water must be allowable."
No it is not, wolf.
I think, AOG, the main reason is that, by and large, the activities undertaken by Christians during their festivals are not life-threatening. (Yes I know, liver damage, drink driving, etc. are problems, but most of the population are sensible enough to know their limits).
With the Ramadan fasting, especially at this time of year, the practice is positively dangerous for all concerned. In London today it is more than 16 hours from sunrise to sunset. To go this length of time, especially with the current temperatures, with no fluid is dangerous and bordering on the insane. However, no amount of advice on leaflets will deter Muslims from this ridiculous practice. I have no particular concern for them. If they are daft enough to do this then that's for them to decide. However no accommodation should be made for this ridiculous practice and I'm not too sure they should be allowed to drive or operate machinery whilst severely dehydrated.
No it is not, wolf.
I think, AOG, the main reason is that, by and large, the activities undertaken by Christians during their festivals are not life-threatening. (Yes I know, liver damage, drink driving, etc. are problems, but most of the population are sensible enough to know their limits).
With the Ramadan fasting, especially at this time of year, the practice is positively dangerous for all concerned. In London today it is more than 16 hours from sunrise to sunset. To go this length of time, especially with the current temperatures, with no fluid is dangerous and bordering on the insane. However, no amount of advice on leaflets will deter Muslims from this ridiculous practice. I have no particular concern for them. If they are daft enough to do this then that's for them to decide. However no accommodation should be made for this ridiculous practice and I'm not too sure they should be allowed to drive or operate machinery whilst severely dehydrated.
Sun up to sundown without food for one month.....no big deal.
Sun up to sundown without water for a month a bigger deal, but not dangerous.
Many Muslims cheat.........many Muslims from Saudi Arabia come to Europe during Ramadan and carry on as normal.
Just as many Catholics submit to abortion and use contraceptives.
Sun up to sundown without water for a month a bigger deal, but not dangerous.
Many Muslims cheat.........many Muslims from Saudi Arabia come to Europe during Ramadan and carry on as normal.
Just as many Catholics submit to abortion and use contraceptives.
"Sun up to sundown without water for a month a bigger deal, but not dangerous. "
The fatuous "Heatwave Plan" issued by HM Government says, among other things "Have plenty of cool drinks". It doesn't say anything about "only in the eight hours between sunset and sunrise". We have Transport for London telling people to take a bottle of water with them for a ten minute tube ride.
Now I have no time for nanny-state advice telling me what is otherwise common sense. But it is not common sense to deprive yourself of fluids for sixteen hours daily for a month in high temperatures.
The fatuous "Heatwave Plan" issued by HM Government says, among other things "Have plenty of cool drinks". It doesn't say anything about "only in the eight hours between sunset and sunrise". We have Transport for London telling people to take a bottle of water with them for a ten minute tube ride.
Now I have no time for nanny-state advice telling me what is otherwise common sense. But it is not common sense to deprive yourself of fluids for sixteen hours daily for a month in high temperatures.
NJ.....there is a difference here.
Ramadan is a fast of Middle Eastern Countries where the indigenous population is well prepared for hot seasons and do indeed spend much of the time indoors out of the direct sunlight.
Due to Islamistion of the West, direct sunlight has a greater effect on the body fluids and the " Westerners" tend to " come outside" in the hot weather. So to is far more important to the unacclimatised Western community to maintain their fluid balance with regular intakes of water.
Even more so when the Westener goes on holiday to the Southern European costas.
Ramadan is a fast of Middle Eastern Countries where the indigenous population is well prepared for hot seasons and do indeed spend much of the time indoors out of the direct sunlight.
Due to Islamistion of the West, direct sunlight has a greater effect on the body fluids and the " Westerners" tend to " come outside" in the hot weather. So to is far more important to the unacclimatised Western community to maintain their fluid balance with regular intakes of water.
Even more so when the Westener goes on holiday to the Southern European costas.
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