And Now, The End Is Near...

[Gromit]

Farewell Nick Griffin. Your party has all but disappeared. And hopefully you will too.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28408039

[mikey4444]

Well said Kromo ! Griffin deserves no support from anybody on here today.

[jim360]

It would be very difficult not to "rig" an audience to be anti-BNP anyway, seeing as their support level even at their height of popularity was not quite 2% of the electorate. A BNP-bashing audience is probably quite representative of the public, actually -- particularly as we've seen their support collapse in the last few years. This is almost certainly because they were mainly picking up the protest vote rather than genuine support, of which they have some but not much. No conspiracy there -- just an honest reflection of British views.

[mikey4444]

You are right Jim. People who used to vote BNP are now probably voting for UKIP, and they are in a minority.

[Svejk]

/// just an honest reflection of British views. ///

don't think so. more of a 'rent a mob' from what I recall.

[DrFilth]

Kromovaracun and mikey the tickets for that show had been given out then people were turning up for the show with the original tickets and being turned away

there is a bbc site where you can apply for tickets for shows that they film i have got some in the past for a person who has no idea of how to use a computer

> Griffin deserves no support from anybody on here today. <

do you honestly think i am supporting griffin Gromit ?


like i said it was a set up

[DrFilth]

Svejk > don't think so. more of a 'rent a mob' from what I recall. <

correct

[DrFilth]

jim even griffin was allowed a small amount of tickets to make sure he had some support in the mob

[mikey4444]

Of course you are not defending the BNP Dr F ! But Griffin made a complete fool of himself on the program and needed no help from the audience to do so. Even if the audience was "rigged" and I doubt that it was, Griffin was his own worst enemy. Perhaps we need to condemn a little more and understand a little less.

[Kromovaracun]

" people were turning up for the show with the original tickets and being turned away "

How do you know this? I've not heard of this before.

[DrFilth]

> Even if the audience was "rigged" and I doubt that it was <

according to the press griffin would only turn up if he could have some tickets for some of his supporters hence the half dozen at the back of the mob that got the evil stare from the mob at the front when they clapped after he opened his gob

[DrFilth]

Kromovaracun was in the press at the time but granted not given a lot of publicity

people who complained after travelling a long distance were pushed to the top of the list for tickets for another qt show if they wanted

[seadogg]

Steady on Mikey-you are beginning to sound like our Nye in the 50's.

[mikey4444]

I am still not quite sure what point you are trying but failing to make Dr F.

Do you think that the "mob at the back" and Griffin didn't deserve to be given the evil stare then ? Perhaps the majority of anti-racists in the audience and the Panel should have applauded him ?

The BBC could have stuffed the audience full of BNP supporters and other racists and it wouldn't have made any difference. It was Griffins's views that got the opprobrium.

[mikey4444]

Seadog...not sure what you mean ? ..I am proud to be a anti-racist...aren't you as well ?

[DrFilth]

Kromovaracun you must have read about the garth brooks ticket mess in ireland , on the tickets it has printed sold subject to licence

well on the tickets the bbc give out they have some words printed saying having a ticket does not guarantee you entrance to the show
( forget they exact correct wording )

[DrFilth]

mikey > I am still not quite sure what point you are trying but failing to make Dr F. <

read Svejk's post

Svejk
/// just an honest reflection of British views. ///

don't think so. more of a 'rent a mob' from what I recall.

[naomi24]

Mikey, //People who used to vote BNP are now probably voting for UKIP,//

That's not only insulting - it's ignorant and it's unjustified.

[seadogg]

Of course I'm anti-racist. Its just that-as an active Labour student- I met him and he spoke like that.

[sp1814]

I've always wondered how the BBC could rig a Question Time audience. As I understand it, the audience questionnaire asked for political affiliations, voting intentions, background etc, in much the same way as an opinion poll.

Could it be that if the audience has, say, 250 people, quite a lot of them will simply not be pro-BNP?

[sp1814]

DrFilth

I should explain how TV audiences work. A mate of mine owns an 'audience wrangling' company, and generally, even if you have a ticket, it doesn't mean that you will get in. Audience wrangling companies always distribute more tickets than there are seats available. If the studio holds (say) 250 people, 300 tickets, or more, will be sent out. They do this because a certain number of people won't show (tickets are free and people, so people are more inclined to go off and do something else if the mood takes them - as opposed to those to have paid £85 to see The Killers, for example).

What happens then, is that 280 people might turn up, but only the first 250 will actually get into the studio.

I've seen this dozens of times in shows that I've been too.

Some shows are more oversubscribed than others.

This episode of QT may well have been one of those.