Wait A Minute What's Happening Here, Could It Be That There Could Now Be Some Doubt?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10984739/MH17-no-link-to-Kremlin-in-plane-downing-US-intelligence.html

[Gromit]

AOG
I don't think the rebels have any war planes of their own. It is unlikely that the Ukrainian airforce and the Russians were in a dog fight and the airliner got in the middle.

[ChillDoubt]

So what are you suggesting Gromit?
That a Ukrainian air-to-air missile downed MH17?

[ichkeria]

"Two Ukrainian fighters were following the passenger Boeing-777 of Malaysian Airlines several minutes before the crash, Russia’s television Channel One said on Friday, citing a tweet made a Spanish air traffic controller of Kiev’s airport Borispol. "

This story is a pack of lies. It was doing the rounds some days ago. There are no Spanish air traffic controllers at Borispol airport (Kyiv). Only Ukrainian-speaking Ukrainian citizens are allowed to work at ATC there.

There is actually an entire website dedicated to tracking these fake news reports: stopfake.org

[Peter Pedant]

Are you saying the aircraft was downed by voodoo ?

and the fine words innocent until proven guilty
OK for criminal trials but we are never going to see one of those in this case

[Peter Pedant]

well the poor old boy ( AOG ) has reason to be confussed.....

it may have stopped flying without the outside effect of a SAM (AOG)

and Ukrainians say they didnt do it and the Russians say the didnt do it,and the CIA says it isnt involved. and despite photographs ( sorry my irony mask is slipping ) the DNR say Niet, Oh and some people I havent heard of ( Luhansk Peoples Republic ) say they cant press button A so they CAN'T have done it.

so it is indeed very confusin
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and we will never ever know people if everyone says 'we know nossink ' no one can prove anything ....

[ichkeria]

The best I've heard so far (and I've heard some good ones including the allegation that the flight was filled with dead bodies from the earlier Malaysian plane disappearance) is: Alexander Khodakovskiy, spokesperson for LNR (Luhansk 'People's' Republic) has admitted that their side had the Buk missiles and even that they'd sent the rest back to Russia, but blamed Ukraine forces for provoking them into using one of them!!

Meanwhile the mayor of some town in the Netherlands is calling for Putin's daughter to be extradited from Netherlands where she lives back to Russia