To All Those On Here Moaning About Israel....

[ToraToraTora]

No one seems to have an answer to the basic point that I and others have been making. Are they simply supposed to absorb the missiles and do nothing? I asked Gromit on his thread but the silence was deafening.

[atalanta]

Have you noticed that every time a Palestinian spokesman is interviewed for radio or television, he is asked about the bombardment of Israel and immediately changes the subject ? I have lost count of the times the interviewer asks " why can't Hamas stop the rockets ?" and he gives a totally irrelevant response. I have yet to hear exactly why Hamas can't stop the thousands of rockets.

[DTCwordfan]

Who supplies the rockets? and, question 2, where do they get the money to pay for them?

[New Judge]

And question 3: who cares? As I said this dispute will never be resolved.

[DrFilth]

DTCwordfan the original rockets they were firing for years were home made little more than fireworks hence no israeli was killed by one

some of the ones they have now are suspected to be from places like iran?

[DrFilth]

> The Hamas-fired missile that slammed into Hadera – an Israeli seaside town midway between Tel Aviv and Haifa – likely travelled a long, circuitous and murky route from Syria via Iran, Sudan and Egypt before its last flight from Gaza on Tuesday.

The missile, believed to be a Syrian-made M-302 Khaibar, eluded Israel’s much-vaunted Iron Dome anti-missile shield and heralds a new and deadlier phase in the vicious war of indiscriminate attacks on population centres.

[DTCwordfan]

Why am I not surprised - maybe this is one of those key areas where the new US/Iran relationship should focus on.

[Peter Pedant]

jno - on a point of order - the DT has just carried the original July 1944 report and even there the Brit report in English says: "they are now saying it was all a mistake . " - Not the shootings but the report of a kidnapped German officer.

British 'Intelligence' as you may know were recording the captured German POWs from 1944 and and one officer todl the story: Oh then we found he wasnt int he village and so we had to do it all over again to another village 20 mi away....

What amazed me was this was carried in the origical report

[DrFilth]

> Hamas launched a long-range Syrian-made M320 rocket at Israel on Tuesday. Iran furnished Hamas with similar long-distance rockets during Israel’s 2012 Operation Pillar of Defense. A recent report from the U.N. (yes — the U.N.!) outlines Iran’s role in funneling weapons to Hamas in the Palestinian enclave of Gaza. (Pillar of Defense was an eight-day mini-war that resulted in preventing large-scale Hamas aggression since it concluded.) <

google american aid to palestine ?

[Peter Pedant]

3T ; Are they simply supposed to absorb the missiles and do nothing?

I am virtually certain an appropriate response is not to kill 150 children....

[Brenden]

Makes good reading - I know there are other opinions - but to me this is believable.

[Brenden]

Complete cock-up, try www.vibrani.com/palestinians, sorry must master these links.

[keyplus90]

Perhaps I should ask you a question too.

Was Hitler a palestinian?

Did Palestinians kill the Jews in second world war?

If none of the above, then why these Jews were compensated by giving them a place in someone's house? Why they were not given part of Germany? Why not anywhere else in Europe or America?

Let's see if you have answer to any one of these questions apart from "I don't agree whatever may come" attitude.

[naomi24]

Keyplus, I think you must know the answer to that - but if not, does 'The Promised Land' ring a bell?

[naomi24]

... nothing else would have been acceptable to the Jews.

[keyplus90]

Who promised them that land? Americans, UK, or Germany? And why that promised was fulfilled as a compensation of the Germans killed the Jews?

It is like if I beat someone up and then a third person take him to your house and say "here you go, because KP beat you up, therefore from today on you would have part of Naomi's house".

[tamborine]

Keyplus, for the same reason Brit colonisers gave muslims in India their own settlement called......can you answer that?

best I tell you coz ur history is bad. Answer = Pakistan

[DrFilth]

keyplus90

Was Hitler a palestinian?


> Gilbert Achcar wryly observes that the Fuhrer did not point out to his Arab visitors at that meeting that until then he had incited German Jews to emigrate to Palestine, and the Reich actively helped Zionist organizations get around British-imposed restrictions on Jewish immigration

[naomi24]

Keyplus, The God of Abraham promised them the land - allegedly - and if you don't believe the Bible, here's a bit from the Koran.

//And We said thereafter to the Children of Israel, "Dwell securely in the land (of promise)": But when the second of the warnings came to pass, We gather you together in a mingled crowd. (2314) surah 17:101-104 Al Isra' (The Night Journey) //

It's not true of course - is it?

[douglas9401]

This was discussed on Moral Maze tonight on Radio 4.

Melanie Phillips was practically apoplectic.
I admit I smiled as I imagined flecks of spittle leaving her mouth.

She wasn't on for a while after screeching like a mad woman about something or other, last year I think. She may be due another wee break.

Anyhoo, in the end nothing was resolved.

[naomi24]

And, unfortunately, nothing ever will be, Douglas. There is no solution.