Don't Mention The 'a' Word Or Even Ther 'p' Word It Would Seem.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2735465/BBC-accused-sanitising-news-coverage-Rotherham-child-abuse-Asian-gangs-failing-refer-perpetrators-ethnicity.html

The BBC are not on their own, neither did the Guardian, I wonder why?

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/aug/27/rotherham-children-abuse-labour-calls-crime-commissioner-resign

/// The call came as 15 victims announced plans to sue Rotherham council and South Yorkshire police in a class action. Their solicitor claimed that in each case both police and council "missed clear opportunities" to prevent the sexual exploitation of dozens of girls in Rotherham by gangs of men between 1996 and 2012. ///

Note the words "Gangs of Men"

/// Jay said that children as young as 11 were raped by multiple perpetrators, trafficked to other towns and cities in northern England, abducted, beaten and intimidated. ///

Also "Multiple Perpetrators".

[jno]

because the race and origin of the perpetrators are irrelevant to their crimes, that's why - though of course a Ukip candidate may seek to make political capital out of the girls' ordeals.

[TWR]

I hope my comment will not be deleted, but I feel I have to say it, If the Situation would have been the other way around, a White so called gang abusing the stated race 11>>>>>14>>>16 year old girls what would have happened?

[VHG]

>>>>because the race and origin of the perpetrators are irrelevant

If it was a "one off" I might agree with you.

But this is becoming a common theme, gangs of Asian men, in cities all over the UK, committing awful sexual acts on very young girls after getting them drunk or drugged (or both)

Sadly these very same men would probably harm their own daughter if she went out with a white man or black man or someone not of their religion.

We really have dragged this country down with our wholesale import of these Asian scum.

Pity we cant turn the clock back.

[Old_Geezer]

How do you know it is a common theme if the news media can't tell you ethnicity ?

[Mamyalynne]

This link was posted yesterday by Humbersloop and it is available for those who wish to read it - there is a section on the Ethnicity Issue.


http://www.rotherham.gov.uk/downloads/file/1407/independent_inquiry_cse_in_rotherham


Make one's own mind up don't leave it to the journalists.

[sp1814]

AOG

A bit confusing...from your link:

"Four of seven article on BBC News online do not mention Pakistani men".

So does that not show that the BBC *have* used the terms in some but not all of their reports?

[mikey4444]

I'm not sure what the DM is on about here. All the BBC reports that I have seen, on the website anyway, have made no secret of the Asian nature of most of the perpetrators :::

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28947707

Quite clear from this clip and I quote ..."The majority of those behind the abuse were described as Asian, while the majority of the reported victims were young white girls"

So, still puzzled about the DMs outrage ?Can anybody see what the BBC have done wrong, apart from not using the P**I word ?

[TWR]

A.O.G It may been the same in your area, Asian Taxi Drivers, Yellow Lines they will park on them, when they like, park at an angle, cold not give a T--S, Our town on a Sat Night are full of Taxi's that Stop / Park any where.

[bazwillrun]

"because the race and origin of the perpetrators are irrelevant to their crimes, that's why"

not according to the official report it wasnt..... "predominantly of pakistani origin"

[sp1814]

By the way, didn't you see Newsnight last night?

As I understand it, and checking my tv schedule - it's on the BBC. It covered the ethnicity of the perpetrators in great detail...as did the BBC News last night.

This all seems very odd, especially when you look at the context of the BBC's response - "Stories on the website are constantly evolving but all have clear links to articles which explain the full context."

I've just had a quick look at the BBC's website. These reports explicitly mention ethnicity:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28934963
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28955170
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28958771
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28947707
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-28956354
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28951612
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28951883
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28949538

This one doesn't, but it's more of a side story (about Ed Balls):

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28952053

This one doesn't, but it's about the Police Commissioner:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28948713

[mikey4444]

The report from the Enquiry made it quite clear of the racial profile of the men, and the BBC reported it as such. I am still missing something here it would seem, but I can't see what, apart from the DM having its usual rant, this time without any foundation whatsoever.

[sp1814]

Hang on everyone...just stop for a moment.

I thought that this was a major news story which was being reported across all news outlets.

I've just done a search in Google for 'BBC accused Rotherham'.

Whilst there are loads of references, they all point to a single source - the Daily Mail.

Nope...not taking the bait.

Not at all.

They all use exactly the same words as the Daily Mail article.

AOG - this was a potentially interesting thread...and perhaps it still has 'legs'.

Enjoy it. Should make for an interesting debate on the value of the news media...especially when it spins stories for the delight of it's gullible readership.

Of course, I'm referring to the BBC and nothing else.





(Ahem...)

[mikey4444]

I agree SP...this is clearly a non-post. We have had a interesting debate on here over the last 24 hours on the Rotherham business but this post isn't it.
Sorry AOG !

[sp1814]

mikey4444

You know, some might say that the Daily Mail's stance might be a tiny bit hypocritical...considering that it's at the very vanguard of sexualising teenage girls.

Underage teenage girls.

Hold on to your hats, and have a look at this. Remember - the Mail has done this a few times, under the banner 'all grown up' - and they're talking about 15 year old children:

http://www.themediablog.co.uk/the-media-blog/2013/01/the-daily-mail-all-grown-up.html

[sp1814]

By the way dive buddy, I agree with you. Race/ethnicity is absolutely at the core of this story. I just don't think that this thread has value. The other Rotherham threads are where the serious debate is happening. This is just Daily Mail nonsense.

Never ever trust a Daily Mail BBC story. It's just not worth it.

[mikey4444]

The sexualisation of young girls is a seriously unestimated issue in the world today. They have those cringingly awful Beauty Queen contests in America, where really young girls, of perhaps only five years old are made to look like tarts and paraded in front of the Judges. Its easy to shout " only in America" but it would happen here given half the chance. Some parents dress their girls in dreadfully revealing clothes...I seem to remember that ASDA was castigated for selling clothing for 5-6 year olds, with padded busts !

[sp1814]

mikey4444

Grim, grim, grim, grim, grim...

AOG - sorry to hijack your thread for a moment, by yes mikey4444 - I've seen documentaries about this, and the parents always say, "Yes, but the girls love dressing up..."

And given the chance, other kids would love to play with guns and smoke - doesn't make it right.

Okay...back to the thread...

[New Judge]

"...because the race and origin of the perpetrators are irrelevant to their crimes,"

Quite so. But the race and origin of the perpetrators were most certainly not irrelevant to the way the complaints were handled. The authorities (the local council and the police) were more interested in "preserving social cohesion" (i.e. not upsetting the apple cart) than prosecuting the offenders. This is what the official report into the scandal said. It was not the Daily Mail or the BBC. This would not have happened if the perpetrators had been "overwhelmingly of white English origin" as the social cohesion would not have been under threat.

[Orderlimit]

Hopefully this will expose how much damage the irresponsible left-wing name calling racism machine does in society.