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'we Want To Come Home' Story
Some strong views in the comments following this story.
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If you lie down with dogs you get fleas....
Showing remorse is one thing but somehow I fail to see how recounting their experiences will prevent plane loads of others willing to take their place for the cause.
The recent fatwas were welcome but there will be no reasoning with those who see no reason....
Showing remorse is one thing but somehow I fail to see how recounting their experiences will prevent plane loads of others willing to take their place for the cause.
The recent fatwas were welcome but there will be no reasoning with those who see no reason....
Ric.ror
You are quite right. What infuriates me is the deafening silence from the Holy Imans and other so called Muslim leaders in this country.
When ,as happened several months ago, attempts to plant I.E.D. s and other pyrotechnic devices by their mosques and selected muslim "places of education" the Imans were bristling in their beards and raging in their robes about the religion of "Love for all and hatred for none" being attacked in this country.
No such incandescent protests about their own committing atrocities in Syria and Iraq and threatening terror to this country when they return.
Not much spiritual guidance shown here me thinks.
You are quite right. What infuriates me is the deafening silence from the Holy Imans and other so called Muslim leaders in this country.
When ,as happened several months ago, attempts to plant I.E.D. s and other pyrotechnic devices by their mosques and selected muslim "places of education" the Imans were bristling in their beards and raging in their robes about the religion of "Love for all and hatred for none" being attacked in this country.
No such incandescent protests about their own committing atrocities in Syria and Iraq and threatening terror to this country when they return.
Not much spiritual guidance shown here me thinks.
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So nice to know that nobody here has ever managed to get involved in something they later regretted, has never screwed up, never put a foot wrong, never been taken in by a con man or a salesman who talked fast and skated over the small print, never needed a second chance.
Jihad has always had two meanings - the internal struggle against worldly temptations to stray from the true path as laid down in scripture (the "greater jihad") and the armed struggle against those who would seek to do harm to Muslims and overthrow Isalm (the "lesser jihad"), and is a religious duty.
With the rise of fundamentalism, the latter has been emphasised as the most important aspect of jihad. Combine that with social media glorifying the struggle, the attitude of the young (after all parents, priests, vicars, imams are old, and the world has changed since they were young, and they know nothing about what it is really like now) and you have fertile ground for recruitment.
Now, if some have gone out there, seen the reality of what they have become involved with and are disgusted by it to want out, why not let them come home ? Sure, keep tabs on them, and encourage them to tell others in person and via social media what that reality is. It is being done in Germany with some apparent success, so why not here as well ?
Jihad has always had two meanings - the internal struggle against worldly temptations to stray from the true path as laid down in scripture (the "greater jihad") and the armed struggle against those who would seek to do harm to Muslims and overthrow Isalm (the "lesser jihad"), and is a religious duty.
With the rise of fundamentalism, the latter has been emphasised as the most important aspect of jihad. Combine that with social media glorifying the struggle, the attitude of the young (after all parents, priests, vicars, imams are old, and the world has changed since they were young, and they know nothing about what it is really like now) and you have fertile ground for recruitment.
Now, if some have gone out there, seen the reality of what they have become involved with and are disgusted by it to want out, why not let them come home ? Sure, keep tabs on them, and encourage them to tell others in person and via social media what that reality is. It is being done in Germany with some apparent success, so why not here as well ?
these boys have proved they are cowards, they were all talk about killing other faiths, and beheading them.
Now they are getting bombed, and finding out what real war is about, they wet their pants, and cry to come home like the babies they are.
The have not twigged that the Koran, is a book of rules. written by dirty old men, for dirty old men.
How did I work this out. ? Well a single girl, goes with a married man, gets accused of adultery, and is toned to death.
what happens to the man ? I guess he's allowed to get away with it.
Now they are getting bombed, and finding out what real war is about, they wet their pants, and cry to come home like the babies they are.
The have not twigged that the Koran, is a book of rules. written by dirty old men, for dirty old men.
How did I work this out. ? Well a single girl, goes with a married man, gets accused of adultery, and is toned to death.
what happens to the man ? I guess he's allowed to get away with it.
