Body & Soul1 min ago
Devolution For Englad?
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Igt must be fairer for the other parts of tge Uk says Cameron.
I wonder if he thinks we will be fobbed off by a bit of power given to a couple of large cities or will he (and Millipede) go the whole hog?
I wonder if he thinks we will be fobbed off by a bit of power given to a couple of large cities or will he (and Millipede) go the whole hog?
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I think any reasonable person would want all areas of the UK to be treated equally. The questions addressing this have been asked many times but we all know politicians don't wish to address that headache as a benefit for one area to give them the same as the rest is going to be compensated by a reduction of "unfair" benefits to another.
A bit of self-deprecating humour goes a long way. You could have laughed off the typing error and we'd all have had a jolly good time, and then eventually got back to the actual question.
I suppose devolution for England could be inevitable but I'm not particularly looking forward to it. The long-term point would be that, with separate English, Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish parliaments, and the EU one at the higher level, how long before the UK-wide parliament becomes irrelevant? Presumably this will end up leading to another layer of politics sat above the local councils. And then perhaps regional councils will follow -- after all, why should Lancashire have so much influence over Cornish policy?
Devolution seems, in general, like precisely the sort of direction for the UK that I was sort of hoping to vote against with my "No" yesterday. Before I put the cross there I hesitated, since I was aware even then that my "no" might end up being interpreted as something closer to "Yes, but not an instant yes". Moreover, I can't see why the solution to distrust in politics is to introduce yet another layer of politicians.
I suppose devolution for England could be inevitable but I'm not particularly looking forward to it. The long-term point would be that, with separate English, Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish parliaments, and the EU one at the higher level, how long before the UK-wide parliament becomes irrelevant? Presumably this will end up leading to another layer of politics sat above the local councils. And then perhaps regional councils will follow -- after all, why should Lancashire have so much influence over Cornish policy?
Devolution seems, in general, like precisely the sort of direction for the UK that I was sort of hoping to vote against with my "No" yesterday. Before I put the cross there I hesitated, since I was aware even then that my "no" might end up being interpreted as something closer to "Yes, but not an instant yes". Moreover, I can't see why the solution to distrust in politics is to introduce yet another layer of politicians.
If England, Wales and Northern Ireland all have devolution, are we not looking at a Federal Government? It would need a capital city in none of the devolved countries to deal with the areas of common interest, defence, foreign affairs etc, in the same way the the US has DC in none of the states. London is maybe the most obvious place but there's the opportunity to create somewhere else as I believe the Australians did. A lot of space here in Norfolk!
I don't think YMB is truly unpleasant; indeed, in recent weeks he seems to have become far more mature and accommodating of others' views. His problem is that he often seems to be incapable of stopping himself from spouting what amount to mantras created by other people....Sun/Mail sub-editors? That's just the view of a "hand-wringing, yurt-dwelling, yoghurt-knitting, leftie, liberal", to give you a flavour of what I’m talking about.
The same applies to his use of less-than-nice slang terms. Hence, sweaties for Scots, septics for Americans (tanks/Yanks, geddit?) and so forth. I've suggested to him more than once here that he should examine his repertoire of these and try to come up with some new ideas or even abandon them altogether.
The same applies to his use of less-than-nice slang terms. Hence, sweaties for Scots, septics for Americans (tanks/Yanks, geddit?) and so forth. I've suggested to him more than once here that he should examine his repertoire of these and try to come up with some new ideas or even abandon them altogether.
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