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Plebgate Mp Andrew Mitchell Called Officer A 'little ***'????
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If these allegations prove true, it could put a complete different slant to the 'Pleb' affair.
/// Mr Mitchell is alleged to have responded to the officer’s request by saying, “I’m a member of parliament and I’m too important to stop for you.” When the officer responded that he “didn’t care” who Mr Mitchell was, the MP reportedly said, “Stop being so aggressive, you little ***.” ///
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/plebgate-mp-andrew-mitchells-record-of-abusing-police-exchief-whip-called-officer-little-st-claim-court-documents-9746501.html
/// Mr Mitchell is alleged to have responded to the officer’s request by saying, “I’m a member of parliament and I’m too important to stop for you.” When the officer responded that he “didn’t care” who Mr Mitchell was, the MP reportedly said, “Stop being so aggressive, you little ***.” ///
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For more on marking an answer as the "Best Answer", please visit our FAQ.I don't know, WR, Mitchell's always admitted swearing, he just insisted he didn't call anyone a pleb. Which appears to be the case.
How this affects his libel case, I don't know. The Sun will be claiming he didn't have a reputation to lose if he has a history of rudeness. He will be claiming it was a single piece of Sun misreporting that cost him his job. I'll leave it to the court to decide.
How this affects his libel case, I don't know. The Sun will be claiming he didn't have a reputation to lose if he has a history of rudeness. He will be claiming it was a single piece of Sun misreporting that cost him his job. I'll leave it to the court to decide.
It was always a mystery to me why the police would want to fabricate stories about the man to try and get him sacked. If his previous behaviour is anything like it's reported to be, that's no longer a mystery, but it doesn't excuse their behaviour.
It sounds like everyone involved in the whole pathetic waste of time is a either a liar, an obnoxious t0sspot, or both. Good riddance to any one of them who gets the sack.
It sounds like everyone involved in the whole pathetic waste of time is a either a liar, an obnoxious t0sspot, or both. Good riddance to any one of them who gets the sack.
It's literally unbelievable that he'd be allowed by the Press and all others concerned to get away with the reported behaviour for so long, coincidentally all the way up to Plebgate ... and even more unbelievable that he'd then be daft enough to sue The Sun for libel when he knew they had this on him, rather than rest on his moral high ground.
Still, we will see The Sun's evidence in court, presumably.
Still, we will see The Sun's evidence in court, presumably.
@jno
He may not have uttered the word 'pleb' but what part of "I'm a member of parliament and I'm too important to stop for you..." fails to embody the very essence of the word?
I think it is a trick of the brain to save memory consumption by condensing the facts of an incident into words which convey what happened effectively, in as few words as possible, like an editor does. This certainly saves time if you want to relate the story, verbally, to someone who wasn't there to see it for themself.
So, the policemens' first mistake was to deploy time-saving language. Maybe not deliberate 'spin' but, as the story goes up the management chain, progressively less interested officers, edit further. "Pleb" might have originated somewhere amongst the management.
When it got to the people with the grudge about the pay structure, they pounced on the 'p'word and 'weaponised' it, so to speak.
Victims of their own machinations, if you ask me.
As Sandy said
//That doesn't sound right, doesn't ring true, somehow.//
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He may not have uttered the word 'pleb' but what part of "I'm a member of parliament and I'm too important to stop for you..." fails to embody the very essence of the word?
I think it is a trick of the brain to save memory consumption by condensing the facts of an incident into words which convey what happened effectively, in as few words as possible, like an editor does. This certainly saves time if you want to relate the story, verbally, to someone who wasn't there to see it for themself.
So, the policemens' first mistake was to deploy time-saving language. Maybe not deliberate 'spin' but, as the story goes up the management chain, progressively less interested officers, edit further. "Pleb" might have originated somewhere amongst the management.
When it got to the people with the grudge about the pay structure, they pounced on the 'p'word and 'weaponised' it, so to speak.
Victims of their own machinations, if you ask me.
As Sandy said
//That doesn't sound right, doesn't ring true, somehow.//
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I'm pretty sure "pleb" was the word in all the headlines, though, hypognosis. Quite right too: it's short, blunt and arrogant. "I'm too important to stop for you" just doesn't have the same ring, even if it means much the same thing.
Actually, I don't think it has quite the same ring - "pleb" sounds much more class-ridden; "I'm too important" could be any footballer or rap star saying "Do you know who I am?"
It's the precise word, not just the meaning, that hit home; and the word wasn't spoken. That was fabrication of something important.
Actually, I don't think it has quite the same ring - "pleb" sounds much more class-ridden; "I'm too important" could be any footballer or rap star saying "Do you know who I am?"
It's the precise word, not just the meaning, that hit home; and the word wasn't spoken. That was fabrication of something important.
I think this is the original Sun headline
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Classic tabloid headline word, short enough to run in huge upper case letters on their front page.
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Classic tabloid headline word, short enough to run in huge upper case letters on their front page.
Yes, probably the only industry where a full day's production can be substandard but they can still get paid for it (even boosting sales for a day, sometimes). There is no product recall and there are no refunds.
If newspapers had to wait 30 days for their pay, like people do and the organisation empowered to oversee that could dock them a day's worth of profits when stories turn out to be wrong, within that time frame, then they'd be a bit more careful about what they print.
As things stand, the current fine levels must be comfortably affordable given the way in which their habits fail to change.
If newspapers had to wait 30 days for their pay, like people do and the organisation empowered to oversee that could dock them a day's worth of profits when stories turn out to be wrong, within that time frame, then they'd be a bit more careful about what they print.
As things stand, the current fine levels must be comfortably affordable given the way in which their habits fail to change.
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