Society & Culture4 mins ago
Dave Lee Travis Verdict
DLT found guilty of indecent assault - cleared on another count - no verdict on third count of sexual assault.
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Old_Geezer - "I guess he must have been one of those who considered grabbing tits & bum a form of flirting. I've met one or two of those in the past. Strange how some folk can't or simply never think of putting themselves in the position of those they are affecting." That was pretty much Travis's defence - saying 'I am a tactile person ...' which translates as - "If I...
13:45 Tue 23rd Sep 2014
Andy, //the women in question did mind - very much,//
But not so much that she complained when it happened 20 years ago. We live in different times now and I agree with Dave and Svejk. It doesn’t justify a court case years after the event - it’s nothing a slap round the chops or a knee in the appropriate place wouldn’t have sorted at the time. That’s what most of us have done in similar circumstances – and I know few women who haven’t been in similar circumstances. This is a bandwagon that, strangely enough, is full of famous people. That’s handy. (No pun intended).
But not so much that she complained when it happened 20 years ago. We live in different times now and I agree with Dave and Svejk. It doesn’t justify a court case years after the event - it’s nothing a slap round the chops or a knee in the appropriate place wouldn’t have sorted at the time. That’s what most of us have done in similar circumstances – and I know few women who haven’t been in similar circumstances. This is a bandwagon that, strangely enough, is full of famous people. That’s handy. (No pun intended).
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naomi24 - "Andy, //the women in question did mind - very much,//
But not so much that she complained when it happened 20 years ago."
According to the press reports, the lady in question did complain to the programme producer, but her complaint was not pursued.
We did live in different times then - times when a woman would not be listened to, or believed if she raised a complaint of this type of assault - but that does not make it alright, simply because it was 'the way things were.'
Men beating and raping their wives, children dying in mill machinery, bears being bated in the streets - these were all 'the way things were' - it doesn't mean that they were right.
But not so much that she complained when it happened 20 years ago."
According to the press reports, the lady in question did complain to the programme producer, but her complaint was not pursued.
We did live in different times then - times when a woman would not be listened to, or believed if she raised a complaint of this type of assault - but that does not make it alright, simply because it was 'the way things were.'
Men beating and raping their wives, children dying in mill machinery, bears being bated in the streets - these were all 'the way things were' - it doesn't mean that they were right.