This Is The Real Way To Protect The British People, Not Is Some Distant Land.

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2783689/Four-men-arrested-suspicion-terror-offences-series-raids-London.html

[Gromit]

I predicted such a raid 3 weeks ago, when a similar raid took place in Australia, to justify them joining the coalition against IS...

// But the timing is very convenient. Australia this week commited to the forthcoming war against ISIL. They need to justify another war with the Australian public, so suddenly they arrest 15 'terrorists' about to commit atrocities. 

Do not be surprised if a similar plot is thwarted in the UK soon, so that there will be support when we join the war. //

08:33 Thu 18th Sep 2014

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1366086.html

[sp1814]

Okay then.

Thanks for that.

[sp1814]

That was for AOG.

[Gromit]

I likened the Austalia raid on that thread to the Plot that never was, to bomb Manchester United.

3 weeks after the Australian raid which at which the police showed a sword allegedly to be used in beheading Australian citizen, it turns out it was a plastic ornament.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/sword-removed-in-counterterrorism-raids-a-common-plastic-decoration-owner-reveals-20141007-10r7nj.html

[Gromit]

AOG
That story is designed to show the need to go to war against IS, not as a reason NOT to go to war.

[mushroom25]

//..IS has Britain in its sights...//

if we send they boys round, that statement will become a self-fulfilling prophesy.

[youngmafbog]

Oh, it's all ok then. It's imply a ruse to go to war, no threat exists in the UK - Gromit says so.

Yeah right.

[Gromit]

Of course there is a threat. There has always been a threat. But the timing of raids is not coincidence. It is to soften up the public's appetite for another war.

[Kromovaracun]

I agree with AOG. I think our best means of protecting our security is to focus on counter terror measures and, of course, to co-operate as much as possible with other intelligence services abroad.

I will say, however, that I do not think the UK's security prospects look good for the near future. But I think this is about the best we can do. I am not convinced that a military intervention against IS will do anything to change that.

[Kromovaracun]

Gromit - the public's appetite hardly needs "softening". And with respect it is hardly an earth-shattering prediction to say "there will be a terror plot in the near future" given the current climate.

[jim360]

From a purely British perspective, perhaps -- but this is bigger than our own National interest I think.

[anotheoldgit]

I just cannot understand the media's and some of the public's support towards the politician's wish to rush to war?

Have they forgotten the various excuses for going to war in Afghanistan, wasn't it first to capture Bin Larden, then to cut off the supply of drugs to Britain, then the excuse that they are using now, "it will make the streets of the UK safe for the British people", and who can forget the Iraq excuse "weapons of mass destruction" wasn't it, or all those coffins arriving back to Brize Norton?

Haven't they learnt anything?

[Gromit]

Krom
After our recent involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq, there is a resistance in the country to go and fight another war. AOG typifies that, and he is not alone.

What I predicted 3 weeks ago was a raid similar to the Australian one to do with a beheading gang taking orders from IS in Syria. That is different from predicting just a terror raid in the near future.

[Zeuhl]

This has little to do with protecting the 'British People' - there is a much bigger game in play that we can hardly contemplate without sounding like David Blinking Icke or the other global conspiracy gurus.

As aog alludes to, there is still no credible explanation for Blair's actions re Iraq other than the machinations of those global forces.

With all due respect to recent victims, Britain, the USA and the West has suffered very little from islamic terrorism compared with the costs of our conflicts of the 20th century and the islamic related death toll in other places.

And a few hundred body bags at Brize Norton will (disgustingly) only matter to the politicos to the extent they can manage public reaction to it

In the meantime, our friends at MI5 and GCHQ will have a surprising number of intelligence sources threading out into communities across the country