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Well, At Least Blunket Can See The Problem
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Will the liberal right-on brigade launch into him now?
Will the liberal right-on brigade launch into him now?
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"Another Politician prepared to Tell it as it is,"
Yes. The UK is full of politicians who are prepared to tell it as it is only after they have long since left office.
I have a little time for Mr Blunkett as he did seem to have shifted ground somewhat from his days as leader of Sheffield City council in the 80s, where that once proud city (declared a "Nuclear Free Zone when he was in office) was almost brought to its knees under his tenure. He did make some attempts to address the asylum problem as Home Secretary but had little chance of success under the Blair administration.
The issue of "swamping" seems to have become a matter of pedantry both here on AB and in the press. There are many areas of the country where people do feel "swamped" by immigrants. Whether they are accurate according to the dictionary is of no matter; that is how they feel. I've been to many of these areas myself and in some cases "swamping" does not adequately describe the situation. People who, from their agreeable Cotswold cottages, suggest Mr Fallon used "emotive" language should realise that it is an emotive topic. They should also have stroll down Barking Road after Friday prayers have just chucked out and then reconsider their position.
Yes. The UK is full of politicians who are prepared to tell it as it is only after they have long since left office.
I have a little time for Mr Blunkett as he did seem to have shifted ground somewhat from his days as leader of Sheffield City council in the 80s, where that once proud city (declared a "Nuclear Free Zone when he was in office) was almost brought to its knees under his tenure. He did make some attempts to address the asylum problem as Home Secretary but had little chance of success under the Blair administration.
The issue of "swamping" seems to have become a matter of pedantry both here on AB and in the press. There are many areas of the country where people do feel "swamped" by immigrants. Whether they are accurate according to the dictionary is of no matter; that is how they feel. I've been to many of these areas myself and in some cases "swamping" does not adequately describe the situation. People who, from their agreeable Cotswold cottages, suggest Mr Fallon used "emotive" language should realise that it is an emotive topic. They should also have stroll down Barking Road after Friday prayers have just chucked out and then reconsider their position.
/suggest Mr Fallon used "emotive" language should realise that it is an emotive topic. /
as this is so important, and Fallon is a government minister, perhaps he would be better doing something about it in preference to escalating the 'emotive' situation in a possible attempt to impress the UKIP crowd.
as this is so important, and Fallon is a government minister, perhaps he would be better doing something about it in preference to escalating the 'emotive' situation in a possible attempt to impress the UKIP crowd.
Neither Mr Fallon, nor indeed anybody else in government up to and including the Prime Minister, can do anything about immigration from the EU. It is unfettered and will remain so as long as we are members of that wretched organisation. The "UKIP crowd" know this (and are prepared to accept it) better than most and do not need Mr Fallon to highlight the fact for them.
Since the chances of our departure are slim in the extreme, whatever the result of next May's election, politicians can only highlight the disadvantages and problems brought about by our continued membership. Their stance should be:
"We know this is a problem. The only way to fix it is for the UK to leave the EU and that's what we will campaign under".
Instead we have:
"We know this is a problem. We're going over to Brussels (or Strasbourg if that's where the circus happens to be meeting that week) to ask them to change the rules for us. If they don't we might delay the payment of our £1.7bn by a week or two".
Since the chances of our departure are slim in the extreme, whatever the result of next May's election, politicians can only highlight the disadvantages and problems brought about by our continued membership. Their stance should be:
"We know this is a problem. The only way to fix it is for the UK to leave the EU and that's what we will campaign under".
Instead we have:
"We know this is a problem. We're going over to Brussels (or Strasbourg if that's where the circus happens to be meeting that week) to ask them to change the rules for us. If they don't we might delay the payment of our £1.7bn by a week or two".
Once again we have those that clearly consider themselves an 'elite' banging on about the word swamped. Why can't they get it into their thick heads that the man on the street does not care whether or not it is emotive and wont even bother analysing it that far. And if a politician decides to use language the majority use and know the context why shouldn't he (she) ? Why do they continually have to pamper to the minority chattering class?
I suspect most do it simply to distract from the real underlying problem
I suspect most do it simply to distract from the real underlying problem
/Why do they continually have to pamper to the minority chattering class?/
You mean instead of pandering to those who (you claim) don't think about stuff very much.
Not caring about what words actually mean and the effect (conscious or subconscious) they have on an audience is just an excuse made by the stupid, the lazy or the dishonest
You mean instead of pandering to those who (you claim) don't think about stuff very much.
Not caring about what words actually mean and the effect (conscious or subconscious) they have on an audience is just an excuse made by the stupid, the lazy or the dishonest
/I suspect most do it simply to distract from the real underlying problem/
blatantly untrue based on my post of 11.56
/this is so important, and Fallon is a government minister, perhaps he would be better doing something about it in preference to escalating the 'emotive' situation in a possible attempt to impress the UKIP crowd./
blatantly untrue based on my post of 11.56
/this is so important, and Fallon is a government minister, perhaps he would be better doing something about it in preference to escalating the 'emotive' situation in a possible attempt to impress the UKIP crowd./
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