Why Is Our Nige Continually Pictured As 4Th?

[youngmafbog]

http://news.sky.com/story/1361710/ukip-hits-new-poll-high-after-1-7bn-eu-bill

Surely he should be next to lab/Tories as below not shown after lib dems?

And look where his support is now coming from labour supporters.

Con 30% +1
Lab 30% -5
UKIP 20% +4
Lib 9% -1
green 4

[janbee]

Yes, UKIP is third at the moment but rising fast and nipping, nay chewing, at the heels of wavy Davy and Millie. Forget little Nicky: he's toast. UKIP, like them or not, are the ones to watch and the ones that ALL parties fear, whether or not they admit it.

[Gromit]

Let's just wait for the Rochester result to see where UKIP's votes are coming from.

The order of the Parties is based on their number of MPs in the current Parliament. UKIP and the Greens both have one, so are last. There is probably a case for the Greens appearing before UKIP on alphatetical order.

[SirOracle]

Also "Respect"party Gromit.

[Gromit]

Thanks for the reminder SirOracle,

That was the by-election where UKIP increase their vote by just 250 from the 2010 General Election.

[youngmafbog]

Why is it based that way? It should be based on % of population therefore showing popularity.

Seats may be skewed, thanks in part to New labour changing boundaries in their favour but that doesn't mean we all have to fall in line.

[mikey4444]

Here is the latest Poll from YouGov, showing ::

Con 32%
Lab 32%
LD 8%
UKIP 18%

http://yougov.co.uk/news/2014/10/28/update-conservatives-and-labour-tied/

[mikey4444]

As yet UKIP only have one MP and that one they stole from the Tories. Still no sign or UKIP "breaking through"

And there is no form evidence that UKIP are poaching votes from Labour in anything like the numbers that they from the Tories.

[mikey4444]

For form read firm !

[-Talbot-]

The poll also contains dire news for Labour, which has fallen to its lowest level of support since Ed Miliband became the party’s leader.



Would Labour run away with the election if they had a new leader?

[mikey4444]

Would the Tories finally get ahead of Labour in the Polls if THEY had a new Leader ? After all, they have been trying to do that for over 3 years now and haven't achieved it yet !

[Zeuhl]

/Why is it based that way? It should be based on % of population therefore showing popularity. /

because the 'scores' (popularity or otherwise) can change

the 'status' of the parties is consistent regardless of what is measured, based on parliamentary seats

[mikey4444]

Well said Zeuhl..."our" Nige will have to work a lot harder to get more than his current One Seat !

[Gromit]

// thanks in part to New labour changing boundaries in their favour //

Your paranoia is very amusing.

The boundaries Commission came about through the Parliamentary Constituencies Act 1986 set up by the Thatcher Government

The Boundaries are reviewed every 5 years by statute.

The conclusions of the Commission are based on census data, changes in demographics and migration patterns. Its aim to to keep constituencies of similar size.

The Commission is independent and is chaired by a Judge. Blair, or anyone else has does not have any influence over the Commission's recommendations.

[Gromit]

// ... will have to work a lot harder to get more than his current One Seat ! //

They will almost certainly increase that one seat to two, in a few days.

[-Talbot-]

100% increase! is there no stopping this juggernaut?

[youngmafbog]

// ... will have to work a lot harder to get more than his current One Seat ! //

Not sure how you expect that to happen outside death or resignation.

Even our Nige does not have the pwer to create seats!

[youngmafbog]

Zehul, the problem with judging it on seats is people like Mickey (not picking on you here but you did post it) associate popularity with seats. ie 'Ghastly' UKIP have one seat so therefore they are not popular. In addition seats cannot be magicked up so until an election not must can be done in the seat arena.

It does not mean they are not popular though.

The polls, consistently registering circa 18%, show this not to be true.

For a new party they really are not that far behind either the Tories or Labour.

[mikey4444]

Whether Nigel and UKIP are popular or not is almost immaterial YMG, unless that popularity translates in seats at Westminster. Who remembers who won Silver or Bronze at an Olympics ?

With our current system of voting, UKIP have an uphill struggle to win seats, despite their popularity. The Greens and other minor Parties have the same problem. Its only through some kind of PR, that new Parties can make any headway, and we all know how popular PR is in Britain...roundly defeated in a referendum just after the 2010 Election.

[BlackadderV]

Between 1820 and 1920 there were more Liberal governments than Tory ones. The Labour Party was founded in 1900 and within 23 years had virtually wiped the Liberal party off the political map, never to have influence again until 2010. Do not underestimate UKIP. I do not know who will be the eventual overall losers, but UKIP are on a roll, which is unlikely to collapse before the next election.

[ChillDoubt]

As yet UKIP only have one MP and that one they stole from the Tories. Still no sign or UKIP "breaking through"
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Earth calling mikey. Take a look at what has happened politically within the UK and EU over the last 18 months, then re-assess what you wrote.
In fact, go into your profile and take a look at all the posts in which you've rubbished and belittled Farage and UKIP whilst your own party has floundered spectacularly poorly in opposition, at how your leader is mistrusted and lacks confidence from even his (supposedly) staunchest supporters whilst Farage has connected with ordinary voters and addressed their pressing concerns.