Labours Faltering Support In Scotland....

[Slapshot]

...... Just faltered a little more, Jim Murphy as next leader, SNPS and the Tories will be laughing their heads off... Another Labour man with his head immersed in the UK party and Ed Milliblands derrière.... Can't Scottish Labour find a politician with the cojones and ability to take the Scottish Labour Party forward.... Ah well when folk thought I was kidding about one party politics North of the border.... Gromit I'd change your sums, if Labour get 10 seas next year I'll be shocked!!!

[ToraToraTora]

not a dry eye in the house!

[Slapshot]

True only worse thing for scotland would be a resurgence of your favourite shower of clowns...... That would bring tears

[janbee]

Jim Murphy? Is that the one with the face like a horse?

[Gromit]

You seem to be by-passing an election.

Jim Murphy has thrown his hat into the ring, but there are other candidates.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-29826513

Possibly a bit early to gloat before the Scottish Labour Party has made its choice.

[Gromit]

The candidates are:

Sarah Boyack -MSP and Shadow Local Government Minister
Neil Findlay - MSP and Shadow Health Minister
Jim Murphy - MP and Shadow Secretary of State for International Development

The winner will be announced on 13 December.

[lindapalmara]

Wish Gordie Broon would throw his hat in. Not grand enough for him. It wouldn't be long before he was calling some voter a bigot!

[Slapshot]

Nothing to do with grand enough... he's stepped back, not interested any more in front line stuff

[Slapshot]

I didn't ignore the election Gromit becasue as he has announced his nomination the result is a foregone conclusion, the "party" will make certain of that!!

[jno]

Labour to win just four seats

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/30/scottish-labour-snp-general-election-poll

Rather bizarre, as the SNP is a one-issue party whose issue has just been put to the public and trounced. So people will vote for them without wanting their policies?

[dieseldick]

labour have nothing to offer only more immigration and rights/houses /benefits for illegal immigrants while our own elderly pensioners have to cut their heating bills to survive ( on food stamps ) FACT !!!

[Slapshot]

I wouldn't say trounced jno, they lost significantly but since the vote the SNP have had a huge upswing in support. Though I am an SNP voter, I voted no in the referendum, I feel we are much richer as a people as part of the UK than splitting us all up.

The SNP, under some control from Westminster have done not a bad job but they could do a lot better within the remits they have, for all they bleat on about the NHS issues THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE for the mess, they have had control of it for 8 years.

However, I'm even more dead set against a one party state and that's what Scotland is rapidly becoming. Will I vote SNP in 2015, probably, maintaining that voice in Westmister is important but in 2016, I hope I have a real choice between the SNP and someone else, someone that will be different, some charisma in leadership, some policy that addresses what people want to see changed. Labour in their current guise can't deliver that, the Tories never will. Pretty sad state to be honest!!

[BlackadderV]

In the 1959 general election 50% of MPs returned from Scotland were Tories.

[Slapshot]

Long time ago Mr B, politically Scotland's changing by the day...

[BlackadderV]

I might be wrong but I think that in those days people voted more along sectarian lines than political ones in Scotland. I know it's an over-simplification, but basically if you were RC you voted Labour and if Church of Scotland you voted Tory.

[Slapshot]

Must admit Mr B I've never looked at it that way but you could very well be right. What I am certain of is that the recent referendum did start to fall along those lines. In my view sectarianism has no place in modern society

[jno]

Churchill was voted out after WW2; his job was done. The same could well have happened to Salmond (though in the absence of immediate credible opposition it would probably have taken one more parliament to do it).

Instead losing the referendum has had the perverse effect of strengthening the SNP, which is exactly what you didn't want (and I suspect what many others didn't want either).

The reality, I think, is that Scots stuck with Westminster they distrusted rather than risk taking responsibility for choosing their own government. So now... they're stuck with a government they didn't want, because they voted for it.

[Slapshot]

.... or stuck with the devil we know rather tha the devil we don't..... Salmond without any control would have been a nightmare