Should Ukip Be Represented At The Cenotaph?

[sp1814]

Two questions...

1. Despite having less than the required number of MPs in Parliament to qualify (which is six), should the organisers change the rules so that UKIP can lay a wreath at the Cenotaph during Remembrance Sunday?

Should there now be a ceasefire on publishing unflattering pictures of Nigel Farage? Note how in this shot, he seems to be morphing into one of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-claims-government-snub-ukip-from-remembrance-sunday-event-9848538.html

[sp1814]

Chilldoubt

Not true...I let my membership to the Socialist Workers Party lapse when they introduced the 'donkey jacket only' rule for meetings.

Must go now...have three hours of X Factor / Downton Abbey / Homeland to wade through.

[ChillDoubt]

I can understand that sp. If everyone was honest, anyone who had memebership/an affiliation to any one particular party surely couldn't agree 100% percent with each particular manifesto(well, maybe one on AB!).

I guess one just has to look at the current political climate and who appeals. But ask yourself this:
Why do UKIP appeal to someone like me who has never voted in any General Election since eligibility to do so some 31 years ago(Nor my brother, also ex Forces and 48 yesterday)? What has woken me up and made me look around at what's happening?
My own opinion is that I've heard the same toadying, false promises and spin(the Osborne fine/rebate spin last week took the biscuit and plumbed new depths), not to mention the inability to answer a simple question with yes or no by most politicians made me never to want to anywhere near a polling booth anyway.
And now, all of a sudden I see a charismatic guy who appears honest and forthright, able to admit faults in personnel and at times utter stupidity within his party and its former clowns who seems to be addressing the questions I have and those I hear in a staff rest room on a daily basis.
I'm fed up of seeing successive governments promise to 'deal with this matter' or 'get tough on the causes' whilst never doing so and seeing the taxpayers money *** away on pure folly(why are we giving money to a country with a Mars space programme??) whilst the organisation I work for struggles to staff wards/theatres, patients dying of what is nothing short of neglect or suffering and denied cancer treatment because it's too expensive?
I'm Welsh/British, fiercely proud in equal measure of both yet see the society I was raised in changing rapidly, where we are becoming too diluted and diverse, with far too much focus of late on political correctness and ethnic minorities, many of whom want to live here but will vehemently resist at all costs becoming integrated into British society. But if anyone tells me that's racist then you can Foxtrot Oscar.
We can't keep taking every person who wants to come here, it's simply unsustainable and despite protestations otherwise the Tories are simply not addressing it.
Come next May I will vote for the first time ever in a General Election. My brother has vowed to do the same.
3 friends whov'e also never voted and several work colleagues have expressed their leanings to UKIP.
I can only guess that they have the same(or in some part) concerns as myself and plan to do something about it.

[ChillDoubt]

Not true...I let my membership to the Socialist Workers Party lapse when they introduced the 'donkey jacket only' rule for meetings.
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LOL

Do they still make donkey jackets? Not seen one in years, it's all hi-vis clothing now, isn't it?

[agchristie]

Chill

Good long post.

[tonyav]

Do they still make donkey jackets? Not seen one in years, it's all hi-vis clothing now, isn't it?

Yeah you can still get them, chill. Retro fashion now !.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-Retro-Donkey-Jacket-with-PVC-Shoulders-Red-Tartan-Lining-by-Warrior-/111483245932?pt=UK_Men_s_Coats_Jackets&var=&;hash=item19f4eb556c

[ChillDoubt]

Thanks ag, got a bit mixed up around the polling booth sentence but hey-ho.
Someone's gotta stand up and be counted, done it all my life since joining HM Forces so not gonna stop now.

[ChillDoubt]

Ha ha, thanks for that tonyav.
Times have changed, paid 10 quid for mine in 1982.
Dad could have got me one for free then but I didn't want the bright orange saddle with N.C.B. on the back of it!

[agchristie]

Chill, quite right and good on you.

[tonyav]

I've still got one from years ago, Chill. Mine doesnt have a lining or flaps on the pockets though.

[margarethilda]

The laying of wreaths at the Cenotaph on Remembrance Sunday should be an act of respect for the fallen , not just another photo opportunity a sentiment that should apply to all the party leaders not just Mr Farage.

[jourdain2]

Thank you Chill. Rather how I feel. We've both just been reading the UKIP link you posted - with a few caveats it sounds like refreshing common sense.

[ChillDoubt]

You're welcome jourdain2.

Yes, it does rather. Not quite the jack-booted, swivel eyed loons they're portrayed as, but never let the truth get in the way of a good story as they say.

[tonyav]

That was an excellent post at 20.31, Chill.

[Zacs-Master]

We seem to have strayed WAY of the point here.

[jomifl]

No and no.

[Zacs-Master]

It's nothing to do with hating them. There is a rule which they haven't qualified for.

[ChillDoubt]

My own personal view is that as this was a rather special one-off commemoration, the first in our lifetime and none of us will see a second time(the 100 years since the start of the Great War) then EVERY party represented in Parliament should have had an open invite to attend and lay a wreath in an official capacity.
At least then they'd have had the opportunity to decline if they so wished.
After all, I don't see that 20 or so extra would have caused too much of a logistical problem!