I Don't Hear Our Right Wing Friends Clamouring For Mitchell's Blood ...

[Canary42]

I don't hear our Right Wing friends clamouring for Mitchell's blood in the way they were baying for the maligned P C Rowland's.

Had the case gone the other way, the usual suspects (e.g. AOG, TTT) would rush on here demanding Rowland's dismissal.

Why am I not surprised.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30235009

[Svejk]

sp1814 /// Canary42
This is a totally unfair, and rather an unscrupulous question.
You need to wait until you see a story about a Muslim verbally assaulting a gay man or lesbian in the street. ///
Can't see why any pragmatist would have a dilemma with the above scenario.
I could, however, see yogurt-knitters getting in a knot.

[mushroom25]

whilst the libel action was against the sun and not pc rowlands per-se, the judge didn't exactly paint him as the pinnacle of police brains, and I'm not sure his integrity is as intact as he himself said afterwards. how can it be, when allegedly he doesn't have the imagination to have made up what was written in his pocketbook?

[Quizmonster]

You don't need to be clever to have integrity; indeed, there is no necessary connection between the two whatsoever. You don't have to have imagination either. Having said that, if I were PC Rowlands, I'd be tempted to open a libel case against the judge. (That's a joke, by the way.)
The key point is that Mitchell has found himself in a lose-lose situation entirely of his own creation and “maun dree his weird”…a fine old Scottish concept meaning “must suffer his fate”.

[Svejk]

SP likes to squeeze gays in whenever he can.

[ludwig]

// The key point is that Mitchell has found himself in a lose-lose situation entirely of his own creation //

It isn't entirely of his own creation though is it, not if the police have lied. Frankly I wouldn't trust any of the people involved in this pathetic saga.

The judge has my sympathies. It couldn't have been an easy task to decide which out of an MP and a bunch of policemen gave an accurate account of something.

[Quizmonster]

Ludwig, Mitchell and Mitchell alone was the instigator of this whole hoo-ha.
a) He could simply have exited via the pedestrian gate as requested. Someone pushing a bike IS a pedestrian.
b) He could have spoken to the police politely. He might, for example, have said, "Aw, come on chaps, I've gone out through the main gate before," instead of effing and blinding at them.
c) When he returned next day to apologise, he could have REALLY apologised, perhaps saying, "I am truly sorry. I'd had a terrible day, what with fractious meetings and endless problems. I just lost it and took it out on you guys with no justification."
None of that happened.

I have no axe to grind on behalf of dishonest policemen and those proved guilty of that are already - and rightly - paying the price in lost jobs and imprisonment. Their dishonesty, however, clearly came AFTER his childish rant. That is beyond dispute and, therefore, he alone created the situation, as I said. Had he not, the dishonest police would have had no foundation or impetus to act as they did.
I have no intention of entering a long-drawn-out debate with you here, so this will be my last contribution. The timeline is just not disputable and so the instigator was clearly Mitchell alone.

[ludwig]

// I have no intention of entering a long-drawn-out debate with you here, so this will be my last contribution //

That's what you always say.

Mitchell does seem like a pompous ***, but that doesn't make it ok for the police to tell lies about him, that's all I'm saying.

[ludwig]

&rse, a r se.

*** annoying when the swear filter makes it look like you've said something far worse than you actually did.

[anotheoldgit]

Canary42

Before you try and down cry "our right wing friends" as you so sarcastically put, you should first do a little research into past posts on this subject.

If you do you will find that I tended to support the police whereas some of our left wing friends could not miss the opportunity to have a bash against the police, along with their usual expletives.

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1366863.html

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1251723.html

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1283586-4.html.

[Svejk]

///I have no intention of entering a long-drawn-out debate with you here, so this will be my last contribution.///
Anybody offering odds. ;)

[retrocop]

Why should us right wing friends be clamouring for Mitchell's blood ? Well I think we got it and justice also.

[ludwig]

///I have no intention of entering a long-drawn-out debate with you here, so this will be my last contribution.///
Anybody offering odds. ;)

This is what QM often says - usually just before entering into a long drawn out debate. He's alright though - leave him alone.