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Savile...the Truth Is Slowly Emerging.
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Yet another weak excuse for not prosecuting Savile. From the BBC link ::
"A 10-month inquiry found ex-mayor Peter Jaconelli and Savile would have been likely to face prosecution if they were alive today"
And yet :::
"the force's internal inquiry found "no evidence of misconduct" by officers"
So, yet again, nobody is guilty after all. When is that Teflon coating going to come of our Police ?
Yet another weak excuse for not prosecuting Savile. From the BBC link ::
"A 10-month inquiry found ex-mayor Peter Jaconelli and Savile would have been likely to face prosecution if they were alive today"
And yet :::
"the force's internal inquiry found "no evidence of misconduct" by officers"
So, yet again, nobody is guilty after all. When is that Teflon coating going to come of our Police ?
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Bit of a none story really. Alleged offences from up to 50 years ago only reported this year. Bit difficult to talk to the accused when they are both dead. Some people are only going to be satisfied if we do an "Oliver Cromwell" with Savile - dig him up, hang him and mutilate the body.
12:26 Thu 18th Dec 2014
YMG...the truth that is emerging is that the Police could have done something but took a decision not to, therefore allowing the abuse to continue.
To quote the BBc link again ::
"North Yorkshire Police Assistant Chief Constable Paul Kennedy said:
"The findings of Operation Hibiscus clearly suggest that there would have been sufficient evidence from 35 individual victims for the Crown Prosecution Service to consider criminal charges against Peter Jaconelli and Jimmy Savile, had they been alive today "
So, if there was "sufficient evidence" why didn't the Police act ? This abuse went on for 40 years. If the Police had acted, some victims would have been saved their ordeal. Kennedy is quite open about his Forces failure to act, but isn't so open about why the enquiry "found no evidence of misconduct"
Its a disgrace and yet again, no body seems to be at fault !
I think its about time the practise of the Police investigating themselves is discontinued, as it is getting us nowhere.
To quote the BBc link again ::
"North Yorkshire Police Assistant Chief Constable Paul Kennedy said:
"The findings of Operation Hibiscus clearly suggest that there would have been sufficient evidence from 35 individual victims for the Crown Prosecution Service to consider criminal charges against Peter Jaconelli and Jimmy Savile, had they been alive today "
So, if there was "sufficient evidence" why didn't the Police act ? This abuse went on for 40 years. If the Police had acted, some victims would have been saved their ordeal. Kennedy is quite open about his Forces failure to act, but isn't so open about why the enquiry "found no evidence of misconduct"
Its a disgrace and yet again, no body seems to be at fault !
I think its about time the practise of the Police investigating themselves is discontinued, as it is getting us nowhere.
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BBC News - Child abuse inquiry: Police investigate three alleged murders... http://
Non-story ? Can't see what is a "non-story" here. Isn't it important that we find out what went wrong in the past, so that we can prevent the same mistakes being made now ? This report comes out after a 10 months Enquiry :::
"North Yorkshire Police began its Operation Hibiscus investigation into historical abuse allegations after a BBC Inside Out report earlier this year which prompted 35 people to come forward"
My point is that the Police have now admitted that they didn't perform their duties correctly. But nobody is responsible. What is the point of going to such time and expense if they can't find anybody on the Force that didn't do their duty properly ? One more quote from the link ::
"A 10-month inquiry found ex-mayor Peter Jaconelli and Savile would have been likely to face prosecution if they were alive today"
Paedophiles are active all over Britain, every day. This last week has been three high profile cases successfully prosecuted in the Courts. I realise that both Savile and Jaconelli are now dead but I want to know why the Police didn't investigate properly when they were alive.
Are you satisfied, that if similar activities were unearthed today, you could trust the Police and others to pull their fingers out and get on with the a proper investigation ?
"North Yorkshire Police began its Operation Hibiscus investigation into historical abuse allegations after a BBC Inside Out report earlier this year which prompted 35 people to come forward"
My point is that the Police have now admitted that they didn't perform their duties correctly. But nobody is responsible. What is the point of going to such time and expense if they can't find anybody on the Force that didn't do their duty properly ? One more quote from the link ::
"A 10-month inquiry found ex-mayor Peter Jaconelli and Savile would have been likely to face prosecution if they were alive today"
Paedophiles are active all over Britain, every day. This last week has been three high profile cases successfully prosecuted in the Courts. I realise that both Savile and Jaconelli are now dead but I want to know why the Police didn't investigate properly when they were alive.
Are you satisfied, that if similar activities were unearthed today, you could trust the Police and others to pull their fingers out and get on with the a proper investigation ?
Instead of continually swiping at the police mikey for failing to act on the subject you have a curious appetite for you might consider Governmental pressure might have been brought to bear on them. Heaven help us if it were a Labour government at the time.
I suppose I can get some satisfaction that you haven't referred to the police as plod in your usual contemptuous manner as also the use of betty for HMQ.
I suppose I can get some satisfaction that you haven't referred to the police as plod in your usual contemptuous manner as also the use of betty for HMQ.
Retro...good try but a failure.....read the BBC link...its they have admitted that they didn't act properly. I am not making any of this up, just responding to the report from the North Yorkshire Police Assistant Chief Constable Paul Kennedy.
Listen to the message instead of trying but failing to kill the messenger.
Listen to the message instead of trying but failing to kill the messenger.
We may be crossing in the post here. There is no indication that there is any BBC bias here whatsoever. Listen to Kennedy. Are you suggesting that the BBC made this up ? Why would they do that ? Would you have preferred it if they had ignored the Report by the North Yorkshire Police ? Shooting the BBC as well as me now are you !
A politically correct agenda foisted on the police by,er,politicians maybe. Cyril Smith. He was a politician wasn't he. Course you know he is don't you. You are the one continually urging us to buy his book. There will probably be some more high profile cases arising from police investigations and they could well be MORE politicians. A few years ago, particularly, in County Constabularys it was the local government and watch committees that the Chief Constables had to dance to their tunes.
If certain politicians kept their noses out of police investigations more cases could well of been uncovered. Political meddling for their own nefarious reasons hampered the police a lot of the time. It was common knowledge within Thames Valley Police,according to an aquaintance who served their,that an arrest was to be made on Saville. The detective who had amassed more than sufficient evidence was told to drop the case or else by a most senior officer who,in turn, had political pressure placed upon him.
Don't continually blame the police because of BBC links.Think about blaming political meddling and hindrance.
If certain politicians kept their noses out of police investigations more cases could well of been uncovered. Political meddling for their own nefarious reasons hampered the police a lot of the time. It was common knowledge within Thames Valley Police,according to an aquaintance who served their,that an arrest was to be made on Saville. The detective who had amassed more than sufficient evidence was told to drop the case or else by a most senior officer who,in turn, had political pressure placed upon him.
Don't continually blame the police because of BBC links.Think about blaming political meddling and hindrance.
I am not changing the subject. You asked why the police allowed child abuse to go on in Scarborough(1255). I replied in length at 1314 that a lot of investigations by police were stifled because of POLITICAL interference for their own nefarious reasons. AS I had mentioned POLITICAL interference I don't think I am changing the subject.You said the police were teflon coated and I'm saying the world of politics is teflon coated also and has more blame attached to these events than the police have. More participants in paedophilia in government as well it would seem if you wish to believe the press news reports.
As you seem to have a vast knowledge and interest in all matters relating to paedophillia perhaps you could explain why you seem rather reticent to mention P.I.E. It isn't because of a female Labour party member's active promotion of the Paedophile Information Exchange?
I say you seem to have a vast knowledge and curious interest in all things paedophillic, and you can choose any inferences you wish to dream up, because I think you will find that going back through OPs concerning paedophillia you always seem to be the first to post on the subject. You probably have read the case papers and the book about Cyril Smith from cover to cover. You always quote from the Savile enquiry. I worked in Station Road and Barnes High Street for 22 years and I and my colleagues were unaware of the exsistence of The Elm Guest House in Rocks Lane although the establishment in which we operated was about 900 metres away from it I only learnt about it from you and your many posts on the subject. A vast knowledge indeed. Bet you could draw me a floor plan of the Guest House couldn't you mikey. Come on give us a tip. Who is the next high profile figure to be arrested in Yewtree. Better still give the police your information as you seem to think you know better than them how to investigate a paedophile ring. Your vast knowledge would be of great interest to them and you could help them with their enquiries as the saying goes. Surprised you didn't step forward earlier. I do take this subject extremely seriously. I think a paedophile is lower than Cyril Smith's belly.
As you seem to have a vast knowledge and interest in all matters relating to paedophillia perhaps you could explain why you seem rather reticent to mention P.I.E. It isn't because of a female Labour party member's active promotion of the Paedophile Information Exchange?
I say you seem to have a vast knowledge and curious interest in all things paedophillic, and you can choose any inferences you wish to dream up, because I think you will find that going back through OPs concerning paedophillia you always seem to be the first to post on the subject. You probably have read the case papers and the book about Cyril Smith from cover to cover. You always quote from the Savile enquiry. I worked in Station Road and Barnes High Street for 22 years and I and my colleagues were unaware of the exsistence of The Elm Guest House in Rocks Lane although the establishment in which we operated was about 900 metres away from it I only learnt about it from you and your many posts on the subject. A vast knowledge indeed. Bet you could draw me a floor plan of the Guest House couldn't you mikey. Come on give us a tip. Who is the next high profile figure to be arrested in Yewtree. Better still give the police your information as you seem to think you know better than them how to investigate a paedophile ring. Your vast knowledge would be of great interest to them and you could help them with their enquiries as the saying goes. Surprised you didn't step forward earlier. I do take this subject extremely seriously. I think a paedophile is lower than Cyril Smith's belly.
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