Lee Rigby

[fruitsalad]

Pity we didn't have a mass march here in the UK for him, after he was slaughtered on the streets,

[rockyracoon]

There was a big march here if I remember rightly, not as big as the one in France though

[fruitsalad]

No exactly rr and I doubt any world leaders flew in either

[Peter Pedant]

that was then and this is now....

would you have turned up if we had - or would you have watched on tel ?

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[jno]

I think a difference was probably seen between an attack on a soldier and an attack on civilian journalists - the latter being seen as an assault on free speech, which (in theory) concerns everyone.

[-Talbot-]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZhXcD_X22w

[Psybbo]

To be honest, I think we were all so shocked and horrified, we didn't know what to do

[fruitsalad]

Yes P P I did turn up, and its nothing to do with this and now, more to do with other countries having a bit more get up and go and getting things done, unlike the soft british government who would hate to upset anyone

[jno]

marches aren't getting things done, though. And British forces looked just as earnestly for the 7/7 perpetrators - and then shot the wrong guy. That was inept but it wasn't because anyone was soft or not bothered.

[Peter Pedant]

demonstrating obviously has its own political side

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4682262.stm

After 7/7 I dont recollect crowds taking to the streets chanting "no more underground bombs ! " we demand a bomb-free Tube ....
[but I could be wrong ]

[sp1814]

fruitsalad

There was a march for Lee Rigby (see the YouTube link).

I fear that because of some of the people the march attracted, many others might not feel comfortable being in the area.

I certainly know I would have serious misgivings being in the middle of that crowd. Media URL: http://youtu.be/mQivUsgwMsM
Description:

[sp1814]

Also, I think the Charlie Hebdo demonstration had something very tangible to protest against - the assault on freedom of speech and freedom of expression, whereas the Lee Rigby murder (and 7/7) are better served by a memorial service - and both got services where people could pay their respects.

[sp1814]

I think my YouTube links don't work because I'm on a Mac, using the Safari browser.

Apologies!

[naomi24]

sp, //I think the Charlie Hebdo demonstration had something very tangible to protest against - the assault on freedom of speech and freedom of expression, whereas the Lee Rigby murder (and 7/7) are better served by a memorial service //

Not tangible? A man hacked to death in cold blood by religious fanatics on the streets of London? Do you want to re-think that?

[sp1814]

naomi24

The murder of Lee Rigby and 7/7 were tangible events yes - you're right. I should have said that the Paris march had something very tangible to protest for.

[naomi24]

sp, still not with you. I would have said both the slaughter of Lee Rigby and 7/7 which you also mentioned were very tangible and worthy of the strongest protest. I think the French are just more defiant and far less accommodating than the British.

[sp1814]

Perhaps naomi24, but as you may have seen from my YouTube link - there were protest rallies, but on a much smaller scale.

It seems that alongside the U.S. (after 9/11 and the Boston bombing) and Norway (after Anders Breivik's) - we tend towards memorials than marching?

[ChillDoubt]

What naomi said. France has far less bleeding hearts and bed-wetting foil hat wearers.

They may only be papering over the cracks though:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30769192

[chaptazbru2]

Ditto to chill's first para.