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Now Here Is A True Ordinary Muslim.
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I was about to enter this story for discussion and then I noticed it had been removed according to TTT, so I will still enter it because up to ow I can't see anything wrong with the discussion topic.
I was about to enter this story for discussion and then I noticed it had been removed according to TTT, so I will still enter it because up to ow I can't see anything wrong with the discussion topic.
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Having read the article I think he put it rather well. And as it seems to imply he is (still) a Muslim that adds necessary weight to getting those who are unhappy with how things are done, to listen and seriously consider the view.
It's not as if the value of personal freedom stops those who arrive keeping many of their traditions, so long as it is kept for themselves and not forced on others who grew up in the dominant culture of the country they adopt. The balance is there for the incomer to opt to fit in with the existing, whilst the country accepts the incomer bringing a flavour of what they know and relate to. But balance is important.
It's not as if the value of personal freedom stops those who arrive keeping many of their traditions, so long as it is kept for themselves and not forced on others who grew up in the dominant culture of the country they adopt. The balance is there for the incomer to opt to fit in with the existing, whilst the country accepts the incomer bringing a flavour of what they know and relate to. But balance is important.
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Sorry...I thought that the question was about true ordinary Muslims. I always thought that a persons deeds speak as much as their words, and the deeds of these two chaps strikes as a much more potent symbol of what it means to be ordinary.
One died in the line of duty and the other risked his life to save others.
I'm sure you might want to take a moment out to doff you metophorical cap to these two gents.
Sorry...I thought that the question was about true ordinary Muslims. I always thought that a persons deeds speak as much as their words, and the deeds of these two chaps strikes as a much more potent symbol of what it means to be ordinary.
One died in the line of duty and the other risked his life to save others.
I'm sure you might want to take a moment out to doff you metophorical cap to these two gents.
Maybe Islam is waking/growing up. I hope so.
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Svejk, I read that a few days ago. Bearing in mind the government of the Muslim Brotherhood, after only a short term of rule, was recently ousted in Egypt, I think the president is perfectly serious in his suggestion. Egypt has tried it the other way and he knows that if the world is ever to know anything close to relative peace, Islam needs to both wake up and grow up.
I think the swearing drives the point home.
He is angry. Angry at the way his religion is crashing its reputation before his eyes, angry at the mistrust he faces from his community and angry at atrocities he sees committed effectively in his name.
He is angry at the senseless violence committed in the name of islam. He is angry that they dare to abuse their belief like that and he is angry at being dragged down with them.
What more do you want from the man?
We are always hearing, where are the muslims speaking up against this that and the other, well here he is and all I see is yet more criticism.
Well said is what I would say to him if I met him. He's not advocating they leave, he's advocating they stop trying to bring their laws with them and asking them to fit in.
He says if their only way to do that is to kill people, that's when you should leave.
I agree with him.
He is angry. Angry at the way his religion is crashing its reputation before his eyes, angry at the mistrust he faces from his community and angry at atrocities he sees committed effectively in his name.
He is angry at the senseless violence committed in the name of islam. He is angry that they dare to abuse their belief like that and he is angry at being dragged down with them.
What more do you want from the man?
We are always hearing, where are the muslims speaking up against this that and the other, well here he is and all I see is yet more criticism.
Well said is what I would say to him if I met him. He's not advocating they leave, he's advocating they stop trying to bring their laws with them and asking them to fit in.
He says if their only way to do that is to kill people, that's when you should leave.
I agree with him.
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