Camerons Speech

[Farriercm]

How come Cameron is on Sky news now making his pre election speech,
with all the pledges ,that are not going to happen,yet has not got the bottle to appear on a tv debate with other leaders???? eh.

[TWR]

Would Toilet paper come to mind Farrier?

[BlackadderV]

I don't think it's anything to do with bottle. Would you want to waste an evening talking to Milly and Clegg? Mind you, an hour with Nige would be interesting.

[Gromit]

I did not like the TV Debates last time, but Cameron has to do it.
To not attend will look like he is scared and running away. Failure to defend his record will backfire on him.

[jim360]

He'd probably fail to defend his record, at least in the context of TV debates, even if he turns up. It is always the way with the incumbent, and Farage in particular can just score cheap points in the way Clegg did in 2010.

[mikey4444]

I can comfortably predict that if the TV debates do go ahead, Cameron will be amongst them. Because not to do so would spell political death for him, and his Party. For the Tory Party not to be represented in such an important and high profile event would be unheard of.

[Old_Geezer]

I don't think politicians are obliged to jump at the media's whip. But they will get flak if they don't.

What I feel is somewhat weird is the claim of being committed to 'full employment'. Were they not the party that year after year said such a thing was not possible ?

If fairness I think that is right. A country is likely to only be able to find wealth creating employment for a proportion of it's able bodied citizens, and those need to create sufficient wealth to run the country.

And if one is going to allow economic migrants to waltz in from the EU every time we manage to get the economy looking a bit better, thus dragging it down again, it makes full employment even less likely to happen.

[Noe-schitt]

I don't think politicians are obliged to tell the truth at these debates, they didn't last time

[tonyav]

Hey, he's gonna be bringing lots of jobs !.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/cameron-puts-jobs-vow-at-heart-of-campaign/ar-AA8kh6l

[ToraToraTora]

Cameron should ignore the BBC and challenge Milliband to a 1 on 1 with an independent mutually agreed "referee" and invite the broadcasters to film it. Anything else is a waste of time. He's 100% right not to play the BBC's game.

[sandyRoe]

Is it of the jam yesterday, jam tomorrow variety?

[youngmafbog]

Quite TTT as I suggested on here, if we must have the debates then one with Dave and Ed and another for the also-rans.

[Quizmonster]

Why on earth would Miliband accept a challenge from someone who has himself indicated he will not face an existing challenge?
I understand Cameron used the phrase, 'green carp'...that word is deliberately misspelt to avoid its being censored...recently. Whence, therefore, comes his apparent championing of the Green Party? (My second question is a rhetorical one, by the way!)

[ToraToraTora]

There is no "challenge" - it cannot help the PM, why would he go and have a debate with a load of also rans when he knows there is nothing to be gained, If Ed had any sense he'd do the same. The only viable debate is with the LOTO. I hope the PM sticks to his guns and their bluff. The BBC knows it will be a non event with the PM. His main error is linking it with the Greens, he should have just said no thanks. In stead of all this na na nana na your scared BS think it through pragmatically.

[Quizmonster]

TTT, you twice above refer to "the BBC", as if that organisation alone had suggested the debates. In fact, these were mooted by OFCOM, the organisation which represents all the communications media, not just the one you yourself dislike. Accordingly, there IS a challenge and Cameron seems intent on dodging it.
You ask, "Why would he go on?" Well, at the 2010 election, Gordon Brown certainly participated in the debates as PM and I'm sure you were one of the people who were only too keen to label him as "Bottler" a short time before that regarding opting out of a general election.
It seems Cameron is far more of a bottler than Brown ever was!


At the 2010 election, Gordon Brown

[ToraToraTora]

" Well, at the 2010 election, Gordon Brown certainly participated in the debates as PM " - yes indeed he did, did you happen to notice the result?

[Quizmonster]

The result in 2010 was, to all intents and purposes, a foregone conclusion and Brown had nothing more to gain from participating in the debates then than Cameron has now. The difference is, he DID participate, making no effort to weasel out of them on patently absurd grounds.
Cameron should have been honest and said, "I don't give a good goldarn about the Greens; there's nothing in this for me, so I ain't doin' it!"

[ToraToraTora]

yes the green party c0bblers was silly, but he is right to not take part and should have just said so, no need to bring the greens into it.

[Quizmonster]

We actually seem to be in agreement...almost...TTT!