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Britain is wide open to abuse by freeloading migrants, says Philip Hammond.
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Quite so, mushroom. This idea that it is beneficial to Britons because of the reciprocal arrangements that exist is laughable. Unemployment Benefit in Poland, for example, is less than one third of the UK allowance. Take a look at the arrangements in Bulgaria: Health care: Free emergency care immediately; other treatments only available if you pay social...
17:41 Wed 21st Jan 2015
Philip Hammond said that the Government is “determined” to reform Britain’s relationship with Brussels so that there is a “sufficient impact on migration numbers to satisfy the public”.
Philip Hammond said that the Government is “determined” to reform Britain’s relationship with its voters so that there is a “sufficient impact on migration numbers to satisfy the public and get us back in ”.
Philip Hammond said that the Government is “determined” to reform Britain’s relationship with its voters so that there is a “sufficient impact on migration numbers to satisfy the public and get us back in ”.
They should have come out with this after they won the last election, but wait a minute they took the Lib/Dems on board didn't they, and judging by this remark,
/// Vince Cable, the Business Secretary, attacked the Conservatives over their plans to reform the EU, calling them “dangerous” and “utterly unrealistic ///.
Is it any wonder?
The thought of a possible coalition between Labour and the Lib/Dems is all too painful to contemplate.
/// Vince Cable, the Business Secretary, attacked the Conservatives over their plans to reform the EU, calling them “dangerous” and “utterly unrealistic ///.
Is it any wonder?
The thought of a possible coalition between Labour and the Lib/Dems is all too painful to contemplate.
It is interesting that Mr Hammond told the Commons "We have increasing agreement across the EU that we need to address the abuse of free movement"
I don't quite know who he refers to when mentioning "increasing agreement". One or two national leaders may believe this but only last week Mr Junkers stated categorically that any move to renegotiate the treaty articles which provide for free movement will be dismissed without debate. Changes will have to be agreed by all 28 members and there is no way that Romania, Bulgaria, the Baltic states and one or two other nations eager to get shot of a few of its citizens will countenance such changes.
Mr Hammond also told the Commons that he very much hoped tht he would be able to support continued membership of the EU but that it depends on ths scale of reforms. Mr Junkers, by contrast, is on record as saying that he believes the time has come for the EU and the UK to seek a divorce. I happen to think (and hope) that he's right and that Mr Hammond's (and Mr Cameron's) belief that any meaningful reforms are pie in the sky.
I don't quite know who he refers to when mentioning "increasing agreement". One or two national leaders may believe this but only last week Mr Junkers stated categorically that any move to renegotiate the treaty articles which provide for free movement will be dismissed without debate. Changes will have to be agreed by all 28 members and there is no way that Romania, Bulgaria, the Baltic states and one or two other nations eager to get shot of a few of its citizens will countenance such changes.
Mr Hammond also told the Commons that he very much hoped tht he would be able to support continued membership of the EU but that it depends on ths scale of reforms. Mr Junkers, by contrast, is on record as saying that he believes the time has come for the EU and the UK to seek a divorce. I happen to think (and hope) that he's right and that Mr Hammond's (and Mr Cameron's) belief that any meaningful reforms are pie in the sky.
Pretty funny that hes only really refering to europeans....africans and asians et al have been abusing the country and its benefits and other sytem for the past 40/50 years.
The recent influx of Europeans havent even come close to the same levels of abuse, they are mere amateurs in this field.....Im sure theyre working on it though !
The recent influx of Europeans havent even come close to the same levels of abuse, they are mere amateurs in this field.....Im sure theyre working on it though !
//But if some of us wanted to go and live in Eastern Europe couldn't we claim the benefits we're entitled to there? We're hardly 'wide open to abuse' if there's reciprocity. //
it's difficult to understand why anyone without the means to support themselves would deliberately absent themselves from the UK's generous benefits system to go live in a land where the language is incomprehensible, and the level of state assistance an order of magnitude less than could be claimed by remaining here.
it's difficult to understand why anyone without the means to support themselves would deliberately absent themselves from the UK's generous benefits system to go live in a land where the language is incomprehensible, and the level of state assistance an order of magnitude less than could be claimed by remaining here.
Quite so, mushroom.
This idea that it is beneficial to Britons because of the reciprocal arrangements that exist is laughable. Unemployment Benefit in Poland, for example, is less than one third of the UK allowance. Take a look at the arrangements in Bulgaria:
Health care: Free emergency care immediately; other treatments only available if you pay social insurance
Child benefit: Targeted schemes restricted to Bulgarian citizens
Unemployment benefit: Minimum of nine months of working in the country required to qualify
Housing benefit: Immediate monthly allowance but only if you have a local authority home already
People from the poorer EU nations see an enormous increase in their income when they come to the UK (whether they work or not). Very few people with a decent job (or even if they were unemployed) would consider upping sticks from the UK to live in one of those countries. In this respect the EU is simply a wealth distribution scheme on a massive scale. Cash moves from the richer to the poorer nations by way of "EU contributions" made by the richer countries and sucked up by the poorer; it also moves courtesy of individuals taking up residence in the richer nations and sending money that they have either earned or drawn in benefits home. People that want to live in other European countries have been able to do so since long before the EU was formed and will continue to be able to if the UK leaves. Like many "benefits" provided by our membership of the EU, there is absolutely nothing in these arrangements for the vast majority of people in the UK.
This idea that it is beneficial to Britons because of the reciprocal arrangements that exist is laughable. Unemployment Benefit in Poland, for example, is less than one third of the UK allowance. Take a look at the arrangements in Bulgaria:
Health care: Free emergency care immediately; other treatments only available if you pay social insurance
Child benefit: Targeted schemes restricted to Bulgarian citizens
Unemployment benefit: Minimum of nine months of working in the country required to qualify
Housing benefit: Immediate monthly allowance but only if you have a local authority home already
People from the poorer EU nations see an enormous increase in their income when they come to the UK (whether they work or not). Very few people with a decent job (or even if they were unemployed) would consider upping sticks from the UK to live in one of those countries. In this respect the EU is simply a wealth distribution scheme on a massive scale. Cash moves from the richer to the poorer nations by way of "EU contributions" made by the richer countries and sucked up by the poorer; it also moves courtesy of individuals taking up residence in the richer nations and sending money that they have either earned or drawn in benefits home. People that want to live in other European countries have been able to do so since long before the EU was formed and will continue to be able to if the UK leaves. Like many "benefits" provided by our membership of the EU, there is absolutely nothing in these arrangements for the vast majority of people in the UK.
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