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Fancy Online Voting For Your Next Mp?
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Well ok, not for 2015 but possibly after. Is this a good idea or would it lead to massive abuse?
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This is how it works in Estonia. It can be very secure and is no more susceptable to fraud than the present system.
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well postal voting is widely abused so online voting will be even simpler to abuse. Given the lack of reslience to hacking shown by governement websites generally this is a silly I idea. Postal voting should be abolished too if you ask me (beyond provision for diplomats/forces etc). If you can't make it to the polling station in the 14 hours they are open then you don't deserve a vote. If you really cannot make it use a proxy.
Agree with the judge,
/// Almost all the worst instances of postal vote fraud since 2000 have happened in seats with large south Asian concentrations, such as Oldham, Blackburn and Tower Hamlets. In 2004, Richard Mawrey QC, presiding over an election court, found six British Asian Labour councillors from Birmingham guilty of corruption that would, he said, "disgrace a banana republic". He declared that the Government's introduction of postal voting on demand was "an open invitation to fraud". ///
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/// Almost all the worst instances of postal vote fraud since 2000 have happened in seats with large south Asian concentrations, such as Oldham, Blackburn and Tower Hamlets. In 2004, Richard Mawrey QC, presiding over an election court, found six British Asian Labour councillors from Birmingham guilty of corruption that would, he said, "disgrace a banana republic". He declared that the Government's introduction of postal voting on demand was "an open invitation to fraud". ///
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I don't think fraud is the issue. At least not in the UK. And not fraud in the sense of multiple voting or whatever.
Whenever this subject is brought up here though it always seems to be hijacked by people complaining about Asians.
A bit like 70% of the questions in general it would seem.
We should certainly keep postal voting. Would we abolish banking because of financial fraud?
I hope online voting will not replace polling stations but subject to the caveats already mentioned, if it means more people voting then it would be good.
When I hear even people like Jimmy Wales being hesitant about the implementation then I do have reservations about that
Whenever this subject is brought up here though it always seems to be hijacked by people complaining about Asians.
A bit like 70% of the questions in general it would seem.
We should certainly keep postal voting. Would we abolish banking because of financial fraud?
I hope online voting will not replace polling stations but subject to the caveats already mentioned, if it means more people voting then it would be good.
When I hear even people like Jimmy Wales being hesitant about the implementation then I do have reservations about that
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/// I don't think fraud is the issue. At least not in the UK. ///
It has been proven that it is, so much so that the Government has had to introduce certain measures to try and prevent it.
/// Whenever this subject is brought up here though it always seems to be hijacked by people complaining about Asians. ///
Much as you would wish this not to so, the link that I have posted proves it to be, sorry to hurt your sensitivities but it is fact.
/// I don't think fraud is the issue. At least not in the UK. ///
It has been proven that it is, so much so that the Government has had to introduce certain measures to try and prevent it.
/// Whenever this subject is brought up here though it always seems to be hijacked by people complaining about Asians. ///
Much as you would wish this not to so, the link that I have posted proves it to be, sorry to hurt your sensitivities but it is fact.
No you would not abolish banking because of financial fraud. But you would not introduce facilities which would clearly make it easier.
I don't know of any instances of voting fraud among non-Asian communities. In fact it was virtually unheard of anywhere in the UK until a few years ago. Unpalatable as it may sound, I believe this is purely an Asian thing. And before you jump at me, I'm not suggesting all Asians are at it but that all those who are at it are Asians - an entirely different thing.
The introduction of postal voting on demand facilitated the type of fraud that has been investigated in recent years. My own view is that unless you have a genuine reason (which should be verified by the authorities before you are granted a remote vote) you should turn up in person at the polling station. Any move away from this simply encourages fraud.
I don't know of any instances of voting fraud among non-Asian communities. In fact it was virtually unheard of anywhere in the UK until a few years ago. Unpalatable as it may sound, I believe this is purely an Asian thing. And before you jump at me, I'm not suggesting all Asians are at it but that all those who are at it are Asians - an entirely different thing.
The introduction of postal voting on demand facilitated the type of fraud that has been investigated in recent years. My own view is that unless you have a genuine reason (which should be verified by the authorities before you are granted a remote vote) you should turn up in person at the polling station. Any move away from this simply encourages fraud.
OK then. Online voting:
PROS: Easy for people to do; Possibly (a very big if given the government's record on IT projects) could be linked up to an automated counting system so that results could be available within a very short time.
CONS: Open to abuse. Those inclined to do so can gain access to multiple votes by gathering the passwords (or whatever) of a number of people.
My own view is that the scope for abuse is enormous, far greater than that which exists for postal voting. I'm not generally against progress and think the internet has brought enormous benefits. (Personally I'd find it difficult to cope without it). However, voting in person is not a big deal. As I said earlier, adequate arrangements can be made for those who genuinely cannot make it to the polling station but the facility should only be available for those who need it.
PROS: Easy for people to do; Possibly (a very big if given the government's record on IT projects) could be linked up to an automated counting system so that results could be available within a very short time.
CONS: Open to abuse. Those inclined to do so can gain access to multiple votes by gathering the passwords (or whatever) of a number of people.
My own view is that the scope for abuse is enormous, far greater than that which exists for postal voting. I'm not generally against progress and think the internet has brought enormous benefits. (Personally I'd find it difficult to cope without it). However, voting in person is not a big deal. As I said earlier, adequate arrangements can be made for those who genuinely cannot make it to the polling station but the facility should only be available for those who need it.
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