This Is Unbelievable

[zoe76]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2304793/Two-babies-stricken-HERPES-ritual-oral-blood-sucking-circumcision-New-York-City.html

Quote from article - In September the department voted to require parents to sign forms consenting to the risks of the practice after the death of two children who contracted the virus through the practice.

I'm guessing by saying 'department' they mean the Department of Health. Why would they even let this carry on? It is wrong on so many levels. Also the family withholding the identity of the rabbi that did it is preventing the health department stepping in. surely this should be a police matter, yet nowhere - that I could see - mentions police authorities

[hc4361]

It obviously isn't illegal in New York.

[rockyracoon]

Lets hope things have moved along in the last 2 years.

[zoe76]

Maybe not hc4361 but it should be illegal - everywhere - imo anyway

Thanks for pointing that out rockyracoon, I just saw this on twitter and didn't realise it was a while ago, hopefully something has been done about it by now and made illegal.

[hc4361]

It's still going on

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/jewish-baby-contracted-herpes-bris-article-1.2055911

[rockyracoon]

Please tell me that the oral suction isn't what I think it is :(

[zoe76]

Thanks for link. I can't even say how gobsmacked I am that this is allowed to go on

[mikey4444]

There is a simple answer to this problem....stop circumcision of baby boys for religious reasons. Its completely and utterly unnecessary.

If it needs to done for medical reasons, that it should be done by a Doctor, under proper hygienic conditions.

[hc4361]

rockyraccoon, if you think it is sucking away the blood after the circumcision you are thinking correctly. That is how the herpes virus gets transferred - the herpes in these cases would be cold sores.

[Peter Pedant]

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This is the land of the Free.....

religious freedoms are jealously guarded and unlike us they have no state religion. For us it is the Church of England just in case you were wondering, and it takes on a sort of favoured religion status

accidentally and unintentionally infecting with oral herpes simplex I would have thought was not a criminal matter

[ altho wheeling a child with smallpox thro the streets was found to be
R v vanderwillo ( or something)]

[lindapalmara]

Thats horrible!

[rockyracoon]

Anywhere else, that would be considered paedophilia, I absolutely cannot see why it is necessary.

[hc4361]

No, it wouldn't, rockyracoon.

[joggerjayne]

// accidentally and unintentionally infecting with oral herpes simplex I would have thought was not a criminal matter //

But accidentally and unintentionally might also be called ... recklessly.

If you drive at 90 mph through a town centre, and don't see the zebra crossing, you have only "accidentally and unintentionally" killed the baby in the push chair.

[hc4361]

It would be interesting to know if this happens in the UK.