Am I The Only One Hoping That When Jihadi John Is Captured ......

[ToraToraTora]

It's not by us? I hope a non EU force captures him or we'll spend ten years agonising over yuman rites etc. Hopefully the Syrians or Jordanians will catch him.

[Peter Pedant]

Andy we are talking about shooting prisoners out of hand
and the consequences

In the past, the losers ( Germany ) when they shot prisoners out of hand at the beginning of the war and at the end were indicted for war crimes

I dont know which bit of 'they have done it before and know what happens ' is unclear

[andy-hughes]

Peter Pedant - "I thought everyone knew about Malmedy... "

The be prepared to accept that your assumption is incorrect - and its reference on this thread and your statement that you believe that one AB'er is in support of it, is also incorrect.

Do you have something to say about that?

[andy-hughes]

Peter Pedant - "Andy we are talking about shooting prisoners out of hand
and the consequences ..."

Who is this 'we'?

Only you have referenced something completely unconnected with the thread and its question - if you want to start a thread about Second World War atrocities, then please go ahead - but bringing your fruitless analogy here is simply distracting.

[Khandro]

The problem is that he would want to die a 'martyr'. My wife (who is reading lots on the history of Islam) tells me that the worst thing that can happen to those of such a mind-set is that they be killed by a WOMAN; then they don't go to heaven. Apparently they fear the women in the Israeli army more than the men for this reason, and it might account for the press photos, after the shooting of the recent Copenhagen assassin, of a woman police officer brandishing an automatic weapon.

[brionon]

Yuman rites ? Are you still sneering ?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Where have you been, Khandro?

[Peter Pedant]

yes I do...we write things and should stand by them

or if they are wrong apologise

If TTT is hoping that JJ will be captured by Jordanians because the quality of justice in Amman is greater, [ then he cant have been to Jordan recently ]

I took it to be because he hoped that JJ would be shot out of hand by the Jordanians who have witnessed one of their own being murdered

If TTT and I are together on the idea that JJ is due legal process before a constituted court, then of course I apologise for stating he is in favour or summary shooting and war crimes

[ I dont think he does you know ]

[anotheoldgit]

Peter Pedant

/// I thought everyone knew about Malmedy...
there is an awful series of films called saint and sinners about it which completely distorts the facts.... ///

For those who do not know about Malmedy, how would a series of films, which completely distorts the facts, be of any help.

[Peter Pedant]

AH // but bringing your fruitless analogy here is simply distracting.//

uncomfortable analogy but not fruitless

I think we should be aware that shooting prisoners out of hand has consequences because it had happened before

you do not

we should agree to differ [ sorry I am quoting you Andie on that one ]

[ToraToraTora]

Andy, many thanks for your attempt a reasoning with PP, I chose not to dignify his rediculousness with a response but I appriciete your efforts.

[anotheoldgit]

Khandro

/// My wife (who is reading lots on the history of Islam) ///

Blimey Khandro. lock up her passport. :0)

[Peter Pedant]

AOG - Malmedy

yeah because they might be moved to read a bit about it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malmedy_massacre
isnt bad

There is a bit about Piper and his later acquittal

and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhoudt_massacre

doesnt say they are the same regiment
but they were and were never prosecuted as they successfully pleaded that all the perps had died in 1943 at Stalingrad

[retrocop]

TTT is hoping JJ is gonna be shot out of hand ( like Bin Laden)

The account I read was that Bin Laden was raising an AK47 when the Seal entered the room. He would of been a legit target and not shot out of hand.It is known as self defence!

[Peter Pedant]

But tell us, TTT break your dignified silence
and tell us if you believe in due legal process ( not for yourself the answer is clearly yes to that ) but for JJ

or shooting on capture ?

[andy-hughes]

Peter Pedant - "I think we should be aware that shooting prisoners out of hand has consequences because it had happened before

you do not"

Your assumption that you are the only one who understand the concept of execution without trial is utterly unfounded.

Your assumption that I am not aware that it has happened before, and I am unaware of the consequences is equally untrue.

I am taking TTT's approach, there appears to be no realistic hope of you responding to my original attempt to draw your attention to the error in your post - or subsequent attempts to debate with you, so I will with draw.

[andy-hughes]

TTT - "Andy, many thanks for your attempt a reasoning with PP, I chose not to dignify his rediculousness with a response but I appriciete your efforts."

You are welcome.

[ToraToraTora]

I'm not saying he should be shot out of hand, I'm saying that I prefer the due process that jordan/Syria would go through to 10 years of legal wrangling that would occur should we capture him.

[ToraToraTora]

I'm not sure how PP made the leap of illogic from my post to his assumption of my meaning.

[retrocop]

TTT
My last post was not an accusation against you.I was quoting what PP said at 1039 about "shooting out of hand" I should of made that clear. Sorry for any misunderstanding.