Germanwings Plane Crash: Pilot 'locked Out Of Cockpit'

[naomi24]

//One of the two pilots of the Germanwings plane that crashed in the French Alps was locked out of the cockpit, according to reports.

Early findings from the cockpit voice recorder suggest the pilot made desperate efforts to get back in, sources close to the investigation say.//

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32062278

Is there no way at all that the crew can access the cockpit in an emergency? I wonder if the pilot left in control suffered a heart attack?

[DTCwordfan]

Speculation at this point....the C-Aviation guy says that if someone on the Investigation panel has leaked it, he/she should be sacked and prosecuted.

[murraymints]

plot thickens....

[DTCwordfan]

Oh, one can speculate and create all sorts of scenarios here...a depressed/suicidal pilot, an ISIS convert, a major heart attack or stroke....

[murraymints]

don't suppose we will ever know what really happened...tragic !

[TWR]

Early findings need to take the casualties / Families into mind before the true account of what has happened Naomi, there had been a report that there was a problem with a cabin door! but again, speculation should be set aside until the cause has been found.

[mikey4444]

I agree that it is very early, but if this proves to be true, the consequences could be dreadful. It might go a long way to solving the MH370 flight mystery.

[-Talbot-]

It might go a long way to solving the MH370 flight mystery.

How?

[naomi24]

TWR, // there had been a report that there was a problem with a cabin door! //

Did the BBC report that too?

[ladybirder]

According to Sky News this is fact, not speculation.

[TWR]

When it was first reported Naomi, there was a comment that the plane had been in for a reported cabin Door Problem, but even if that was the case, this would not have caused this terrible Tragic crash, the pilot would have dropped to a lower level.

[Peter Pedant]

// Is there no way at all that the crew can access the cockpit in an emergency?//

Nichty nochty nigh

it was all changed after 9/11.
so that NO ONE could access the cockpit without permit from inside and not during take off and landing

If true then it is a good example of changing a process and not auditing the results ( for unwanted consequences ) - I got retired for pointing out to my employer just how crap his new ideas of working, were. His view was that I was resistant to change.

[Peter Pedant]

When the last Concordski crashed in SIberia -Tupolev 144 - the pilot was found in the back in the jarn and his 11 y old son in the pilots seat

yeah OK makes a good story

[TWR]

Within the last job I held e had a Star Key that we used for the access to medication, this key could be held by the Pilot / Co- pilot, but there's two ways of looking at that, a verbal password could be used onto the pilots headset.

[Peter Pedant]

the C-Aviation guy says that if someone on the Investigation panel has leaked it, he/she should be sacked and prosecuted.

I thought it was only the British:

144 dead and hey lets waste time searching for and punishing a leaker

[Peter Pedant]

Apparently it cant happen ! I lover comments like that
Beeb at 8.37

there is also another story where the passengers start screaming as the trolley dolley and co-pilot attack the door with a fire ax.

[sandyRoe]

Can a passenger make a phone call from a plane when it's in flight? If the passengers knew for 8 minutes that they were in some sort of trouble would some have phoned messages just in case?

[naomi24]

Ladybirder, thank you.

TWR, if the pilot at the controls became ill, a password given to him by someone outside the cockpit wouldn’t have helped.

[sandyRoe]

* messages to their loved ones ^

[Hopkirk]

TWR, a password is no use if the pilot in the flight deck is unconscious, dead or suicidal.

A universal pass key would defeat the object of securing the flight deck, as a terrorist might be able to obtain one.

[Peter Pedant]

The locked cockpit door was intended to solve the problem of the murderous passenger / trolley dolly from without

they dont seem to have coped with a problem within the cockpit even tho that could be predicted...

( Staines crash 1967 where cockpit dissension was a direct cause )