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Do These Guys Deserve A Second Chance?
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They say they have reformed, crocodile tears?
They say they have reformed, crocodile tears?
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Od course these characters have reformed (i.e. stopped smuggling drugs). They've been in the Chokey for ten years! As has been said, it is quite well known that many far eastern countries have the death penalty available for such crimes. They were stupid. They should have brought their contraband to the UK. They'd have long since served their sentence...
16:23 Mon 06th Apr 2015
Od course these characters have reformed (i.e. stopped smuggling drugs). They've been in the Chokey for ten years!
As has been said, it is quite well known that many far eastern countries have the death penalty available for such crimes. They were stupid. They should have brought their contraband to the UK. They'd have long since served their sentence (assuming they were caught and convicted, that is), safely ensconced in their council house by now drawing benefits to supplement their income, and sheltered from deportation by Article 8 of the ECHR.
As has been said, it is quite well known that many far eastern countries have the death penalty available for such crimes. They were stupid. They should have brought their contraband to the UK. They'd have long since served their sentence (assuming they were caught and convicted, that is), safely ensconced in their council house by now drawing benefits to supplement their income, and sheltered from deportation by Article 8 of the ECHR.
NJ
// They should have brought their contraband to the UK. They'd have long since served their sentence (assuming they were caught and convicted, that is), safely ensconced in their council house by now drawing benefits to supplement their income, and sheltered from deportation by Article 8 of the ECHR. //
Wonderfully cynical, but their problem is they got caught in Bali.
// They should have brought their contraband to the UK. They'd have long since served their sentence (assuming they were caught and convicted, that is), safely ensconced in their council house by now drawing benefits to supplement their income, and sheltered from deportation by Article 8 of the ECHR. //
Wonderfully cynical, but their problem is they got caught in Bali.
God I wish people wouldnt remove other peoples answers.
There are so many people telling bobajob he is wrong
I truly wonder what he said
Hanging people for non capital offences
Retrocop can confirm if we hanged for terrorist offences, we would have hanged at least 10 rather obviously innocent Irishmen.
Drug smugglers here tend to serve longer sentences than murderers - but I agree they are alive at the end of it.
There are so many people telling bobajob he is wrong
I truly wonder what he said
Hanging people for non capital offences
Retrocop can confirm if we hanged for terrorist offences, we would have hanged at least 10 rather obviously innocent Irishmen.
Drug smugglers here tend to serve longer sentences than murderers - but I agree they are alive at the end of it.
If you look at page 5 of this document, Peter:
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you will see it is no mere sound bite. Even if the offence these characters committed was seen as category 1 in which they took a “leading role” (i.e. top of the sentencing range) the starting point for consideration is 12 years. Of this he will serve no more than six (all prisoners serving determinate sentences are normally released automatically and unconditionally after serving half their sentence). Of course this assumes a not guilty plea. Pleading guilty will reduce this by a third. No doubt a decent brief (funded by Legal Aid, natch) would persuade the judge to ease this down a bit further. So, maximum of six years, and probably a good bit less than that. This crew were originally sentenced in 2006 so I stand by my contention that they would have been out long before now.
Of course it’s pure conjecture on my part that they would be in social housing and enjoying the protection of the ECHR. But I know where I’d put my money.
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you will see it is no mere sound bite. Even if the offence these characters committed was seen as category 1 in which they took a “leading role” (i.e. top of the sentencing range) the starting point for consideration is 12 years. Of this he will serve no more than six (all prisoners serving determinate sentences are normally released automatically and unconditionally after serving half their sentence). Of course this assumes a not guilty plea. Pleading guilty will reduce this by a third. No doubt a decent brief (funded by Legal Aid, natch) would persuade the judge to ease this down a bit further. So, maximum of six years, and probably a good bit less than that. This crew were originally sentenced in 2006 so I stand by my contention that they would have been out long before now.
Of course it’s pure conjecture on my part that they would be in social housing and enjoying the protection of the ECHR. But I know where I’d put my money.
// We want to attract the right type of criminals here - ie the cleverer ones that don't like being punished very much. //
hasnt worked very well so far
50% cons cant read and write
and 75% never work again once out
Aitken the great perjuror was called The Joiner in his open prison
b/c he was the only one ( besides the gubner I suppose ) who could write joined up writing
hasnt worked very well so far
50% cons cant read and write
and 75% never work again once out
Aitken the great perjuror was called The Joiner in his open prison
b/c he was the only one ( besides the gubner I suppose ) who could write joined up writing
It's all very well to say they knew the punishment for their crime but it is a punishment that a large majority of the civilised world now find unacceptable. If you use that when in Rome standard then you'd also agree with a woman being stoned to death for adultery in Syria. I'm not reducing the vileness of their crime, just the punishment.
Read my lips. A capital offence is one punishable by death. What are now non-capital offences were capital at the time. Drug smuggling is a capital offence in Indonesia and Malaysia, not in the UK. Murder was a capital offence until 1957 when the Homicide Act distinguished between capital and non-capital murder.
