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Integration Islamic Style
Yet another demonstration of our moderate Islamic guests non- acceptance of a democracy that the country they opted to live in promotes.
Why don't they just Bog off.?
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Why don't they just Bog off.?
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Yes quite so, OG. But it is not their right to post intimidatory messages on lamp posts in a district where they know there are many Allah-
21:47 Wed 22nd Apr 2015
andy-hughes, //Religion is about interpretation by individuals - as it always has been, and always will be.//
How do you know? You haven’t read the books – you have no idea what’s in them – therefore you cannot possibly know whether they are misinterpreted or not. However, for your information in the case of radical Islam they are not.
How do you know? You haven’t read the books – you have no idea what’s in them – therefore you cannot possibly know whether they are misinterpreted or not. However, for your information in the case of radical Islam they are not.
Naomi - //andy-hughes, //Religion is about interpretation by individuals - as it always has been, and always will be.//
How do you know? You haven’t read the books – you have no idea what’s in them – therefore you cannot possibly know whether they are misinterpreted or not. However, for your information in the case of radical Islam they are not. //
No, I cannot know if they are misinterpreted, that is why I made no mention of misinterpretation whatsoever in my post.
My point is about interpretation, and that is as individual as the people who read the books.
As I said, you can find justification for absolutely anything you want to do in the name of your faith in your chosen book - you simply have to read it, find the bits that fit, and interpret them to suit your stance.
So a majority see the wishes expressed in their book one way, the minority see it another.
That applies to any faith, and you do not need to have read all the books, or indeed any of them of that to be a simple truth.
That is the point I made - I see no argument thus far in the posts that have followed mine.
How do you know? You haven’t read the books – you have no idea what’s in them – therefore you cannot possibly know whether they are misinterpreted or not. However, for your information in the case of radical Islam they are not. //
No, I cannot know if they are misinterpreted, that is why I made no mention of misinterpretation whatsoever in my post.
My point is about interpretation, and that is as individual as the people who read the books.
As I said, you can find justification for absolutely anything you want to do in the name of your faith in your chosen book - you simply have to read it, find the bits that fit, and interpret them to suit your stance.
So a majority see the wishes expressed in their book one way, the minority see it another.
That applies to any faith, and you do not need to have read all the books, or indeed any of them of that to be a simple truth.
That is the point I made - I see no argument thus far in the posts that have followed mine.
andy-hughes, //So a majority see the wishes expressed in their book one way, the minority see it another.//
That isn’t true. They don’t interpret it differently. Every Muslim knows what it supposed to happen to the enemies of Islam but quite simply the majority don’t act upon the instructions expressed in their book whereas the minority do. I do hope you don’t critique music on an assumption without listening to it first.
That isn’t true. They don’t interpret it differently. Every Muslim knows what it supposed to happen to the enemies of Islam but quite simply the majority don’t act upon the instructions expressed in their book whereas the minority do. I do hope you don’t critique music on an assumption without listening to it first.
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Ah
I couldn't agree more with you but then I am not the one who is condoning that behaviour am I.
To agree with the unacceptable behaviour of these bill stickers tell us what sort of person that is.
The Nazi fascists had a penchant for bill sticking. You know "Juden Raus"
No sensible person condoned that so why should AP condone fascism, Islam style, by them dictating if we can exercise our democratic right in our own country?
That is a negative demonstration by Islamists and I have yet to see a positive one. Clearing up their mess they created might be getting half way there///
///Your post does say AH, but I accept that was an error///
About ½ way through the post Andy and you'll see who actually made the error
Ah
I couldn't agree more with you but then I am not the one who is condoning that behaviour am I.
To agree with the unacceptable behaviour of these bill stickers tell us what sort of person that is.
The Nazi fascists had a penchant for bill sticking. You know "Juden Raus"
No sensible person condoned that so why should AP condone fascism, Islam style, by them dictating if we can exercise our democratic right in our own country?
That is a negative demonstration by Islamists and I have yet to see a positive one. Clearing up their mess they created might be getting half way there///
///Your post does say AH, but I accept that was an error///
About ½ way through the post Andy and you'll see who actually made the error
AH, i would draw your attention to 2 particular verses in the Koran, 9.5 and 9.29. 9.5 itself is known as "the verse of the sword".
I'm not entirely sure how these verses could be interpreted in any way other that that which would be obvious to the reader. of course, other verses in that section explain that he who submits to islam will be spared, as Allaah is merciful and forgiving. well that's all right then....
I'm not entirely sure how these verses could be interpreted in any way other that that which would be obvious to the reader. of course, other verses in that section explain that he who submits to islam will be spared, as Allaah is merciful and forgiving. well that's all right then....
Naomi - //That isn’t true. They don’t interpret it differently. Every Muslim knows what it supposed to happen to the enemies of Islam but quite simply the majority don’t act upon the instructions expressed in their book whereas the minority do.//
We have fallen out previously about what I see as your propensity towards speaking for a religious majority and / or minority, which I admit I am unable to do with any degree of relevance, and do wonder if you are more qualified?
But if you are, then I would suggest that you are simply doing the same thing - interpreting what you have read or been told - which is absolutely fine we all do that - except doing it across the board as you have seems to be interpreting to bolster your argument.
And that is what all religious followers do - moderate to extremist - isn't it?
We have fallen out previously about what I see as your propensity towards speaking for a religious majority and / or minority, which I admit I am unable to do with any degree of relevance, and do wonder if you are more qualified?
But if you are, then I would suggest that you are simply doing the same thing - interpreting what you have read or been told - which is absolutely fine we all do that - except doing it across the board as you have seems to be interpreting to bolster your argument.
And that is what all religious followers do - moderate to extremist - isn't it?
Yes quite so, OG.
But it is not their right to post intimidatory messages on lamp posts in a district where they know there are many Allah-fearing people around.
This strategy is not the same as persuading people to vote for a particular candidate. This is designed to frighten people into refusing to use their vote as it is contrary to a supposed belief. The wording of the poster suggests that voting is contrary to Islam's teachings and goes further to state that democracy itself is contrary to the teachings of Allah.
I don't care how few people are involved in this. I don't care how "peace loving" all the rest of this religion's followers are. There is no place for this in the UK (or indeed anywhere else that savours democracy) and it neeeds to be routed out, condemned and those responsible broght to book.
But it is not their right to post intimidatory messages on lamp posts in a district where they know there are many Allah-fearing people around.
This strategy is not the same as persuading people to vote for a particular candidate. This is designed to frighten people into refusing to use their vote as it is contrary to a supposed belief. The wording of the poster suggests that voting is contrary to Islam's teachings and goes further to state that democracy itself is contrary to the teachings of Allah.
I don't care how few people are involved in this. I don't care how "peace loving" all the rest of this religion's followers are. There is no place for this in the UK (or indeed anywhere else that savours democracy) and it neeeds to be routed out, condemned and those responsible broght to book.
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