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What Moron Came Up With This?
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I tend to agree with Buenchico in that it does make good sense, providing that the collapse was due to advanced cancer or severe stroke or chronic lung disease........but hey if it was due to a heart attack or hypoglycaemia, then i would want resuscitating.
Cut off at 75 years old......that is a young age.
So.....as it stands and as i understand it........i would be against such legislation.
I tend to agree with Buenchico in that it does make good sense, providing that the collapse was due to advanced cancer or severe stroke or chronic lung disease........but hey if it was due to a heart attack or hypoglycaemia, then i would want resuscitating.
Cut off at 75 years old......that is a young age.
So.....as it stands and as i understand it........i would be against such legislation.
I thought they did that anyway. I mean if you're over a certain age they don't apply the same treatments as they do for a younger person - e.g they don't bother getting the crash cart and the electric paddles out as there'd be no point, it'd finish you off.
At least this way they're asking what you actually want.
At least this way they're asking what you actually want.
I think it depends on how its done whether its insensitive or not. I do think its a very good idea to have the discussion if it seems likely that such a decision will need to be acted upon in the foreseeable future. I agree that the "cold calling" is wrong but then there are thoughtless idiots in the medical and nursing professions as well as everywhere else.
No-one I think would disagree with having the sensitive discussion with people already with a debilitating disease. that's nowhere near the same as asking all 75s what they want. That's just scaremongering and also implies all 75 and over are about to drop dead - or at least need to worry that they might.
Fair enough, Mamya, but what a thing to be suggesting to perfectly healthy 76-and-upwards! It is calculated to make one introspective and think about the value of one's life and if in fact you are a burden in some way or another. This could tip some people who may be depressive, lonely and with the usual aches and pains into agreeing a DNR statement and then they could later have a heart episode but be more positively minded and have their statement waved at them.
I think it is the start of a very slippery slope, myself. Different if you are talking to a person whose life is likely to be limited and painful. Mr J2 is now 82 and, of course, has a few problems (some would be considered serious in this context, like heart things, but he is fine and we walked 5 miles the other day)- but he intends to go on forever, or at least until 100. Only hope I make it with him!
I really tend to agree with OP that it is moronic (whilst suspecting that it is a calculated shot across the bows to gauge reaction).
I think it is the start of a very slippery slope, myself. Different if you are talking to a person whose life is likely to be limited and painful. Mr J2 is now 82 and, of course, has a few problems (some would be considered serious in this context, like heart things, but he is fine and we walked 5 miles the other day)- but he intends to go on forever, or at least until 100. Only hope I make it with him!
I really tend to agree with OP that it is moronic (whilst suspecting that it is a calculated shot across the bows to gauge reaction).
Age is, because nobody will live forever.... This is supposed to be about a choice, not forcing people to sign something. It is already asked if you move into a residential home- and you only have to be 65 to move to those. Anyway, other illnesses like dementia might prevent someone from making their own decision. It just has to be clear in which circumstances it should or shouldn't be used.