Sour Grapes?

[ToraToraTora]

It has been asked many times why many Tories are "shy", here's why:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32678518
Can you imagine this from dissapointed Tories had Labour won. They even defaced a WWII memorial. The left should hang their heads in shame.

[ichkeria]

Dear oh dear, I thought the barrels were going to get a rest after the campaigning was over :-)
If you still have a victim mentality after such a great victory, on the strength of a few idiots in Downing Street (and I am not referring to Cameron and Osborne here for the time being :-) ) then I am almost glad you won.
What would it have been like if you'd lost!

[ToraToraTora]

well I would not be defacing WWII memortials.

[jno]

dear oh dear, can we expect the same thread from every triumphalist Tory?

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1418757.html

[ichkeria]

No I did not mean that TTT. Of course all this is an utter disgrace.
I just wondered how much more of a victim you'd have felt if the Tories had actually lost :-)
But please don't tar the entire "left" with the same brush. I

[ToraToraTora]

I don't feel a "victim" I'm just puzzled as to why the left will not accept the election result in good humour.

[anotheoldgit]

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/media/images/82883000/jpg/_82883450_church.jpg

We have been forced to put up with you over the years, darling.

[ichkeria]

" the left will not accept the election result in good humour. "

How do you know if these people are even Labour voters? They don't speak for me, nor I would suggest 99% of the people who voted for anyone. At least not the ones who resorted to violence and vandalism

[jim360]

I think the left are entitled to be in a bad mood. Although it's obviously impossible to prove, my suspicion is that the Tory vote has been a bit inflated because of fears of a Lab-SNP coalition pushing people towards voting Tory. This isn't entirely unreasonable, either to suspect or even to have voted that way. The fact is that Labour collapsed in Scotland to an extent that they are lucky to have even got one seat, and to have even picked up about 25% of the vote -- tactical voting coming from people who would otherwise have been Conservative or Lib Dem voters switching to the Labour party to try, in vain, to keep the SNP out, has probably served to left the Labour vote share above 20%.

And this collapse north of the border meant that there was only a small chance of an outright Labour majority. A chance all the same -- but one that disappeared once the "stop the SNP having any influence" argument was made, repeatedly. But then, shouldn't Labour have had a bigger chance to win? After five years of Tory-dominated coalition implementing various unpopular policies, and being less than successful anyway, for that matter, Labour should have been doing well enough to be at least threatening to have a majority. That they did not is a failure of the leadership in being convincing enough.

I'm not convinced it's a triumph for democracy and I am hopeful that people from all sides of politics will appreciate how short-changed many people have been. I absolutely condemn the violent side of the protest. But I don't think it's unreasonable to feel disappointed, even angry, at how things have turned out. How you express your anger ought to be far more reasonable -- and where you direct it ought to be just as much at the Labour leadership, now gone thankfully, as at anyone else.

[Old_Geezer]

I can imaging extremists of all types of persuasion doing things such as that.

I would suspect most austerity protestors were not involved in defacing monuments.

[naomi24]

//Can you imagine this from dissapointed Tories had Labour won.//

No.

[Orderlimit]

Yes, this is one such example that could help to show or explain why some Tory voters are 'shy', but I imagine it is a lot worse for Ukip voters. Intimidation in its various forms seems to be a common character trait of the Left.

[Svejk]

It's the pathetic mentality of the left. I'd feel sorry for them if they weren't such obnoxious, know-all parasites.

[lindapalmara]

I quote Kinnock who said "I blame the people for succumbing to what Marx called "False consciousness". It is a matter of Mood and self delusion that makes people eventually, regardless of what they feel they should be doing when they speak to the opinion pollsters, take a different view with that stub of pencil in the privacy of the polling both.

So the people are idiots is what he is trying to say!!!

[pips1]

Just enjoy it while you can, you really have no idea!

[ToraToraTora]

err ok...perhaps you could enlighten us with your wisdom pips1!

[ichkeria]

There was actually remarkably little in the way of sour grapes in the acceptance speeches of so many of the defeated candidates.
Without wishing to come across as all pompous I think that is what makes us if not unique then definitely unusual when it comes to elections. Strong emotions are raised but at heart everyone knows that it is the will of the people that has spoken, and done so moreover in a reasonably free and untrammelled way.
You get Nick Clegg etc stood next to some oddly attired member of the MRLP etc, awaiting his fate, as notably Thatcher did in 1987, stood next to Lord Buckethead no less at the count in Finchley :-)