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[bazwillrun]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-33252378

with the sentence thats is !

[RATTER15]

That is a heavy sentence, both boys were willing!, what she done was wrong but the boys loved what was happening and I bet they boasted about it to their friends, very different thing from the same happening to girls IMO.

[woofgang]

Ratter, how do you know they "loved what was happening"?

[aelmpvw]

/// "loved what was happening"?///
i very much doubt it having seen her photograph

[Elina]

Hi baz, hi ratter, I'd disagree Ratter and say at the time of the abuse, whether they were willing participants or not, emotionally they weren't able to realise what they were getting involved with wasn't right. Therefore, it was abuse & the sentence is deserved.

[Mamyalynne]

Think the sentence is about right given the meagre details we have

ael - I thought it would be at least ten posts in before anyone commented on 'looks'.

[aelmpvw]

if she looked like kelly brook i wouldn't have needed to make the comment

[tamborine]

Little p.r.i.x

[Mamyalynne]

ael - read the story, she would have been in her twenties.


Beauty has nothing to do with exploitation any way.

[Lie-in King]

The sentence feels about right to me.

ael - she'd have been in her 20's at the time & I suspect looked very different. Not that "looks" matter in cases like these IMO.

[Ken4155]

If you read the link, one of the men says, "As a kid i thought it was great what was happening, but now i see it for what it was - wrong." So, clearly, as RATTER says, the boys loved what was happening at the time. As for the sentence, given the current climate as regards these historical sex abuse cases, it was probably just about correct.

[youngmafbog]

//Beauty has nothing to do with exploitation any way.//

Really? If she looked like she fell out the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down it would be a damn sight more difficult for the boys to be willing.

Sentence seems on a par for the current preference on historical cases rather than search out the current offenders.

[andy-hughes]

bazwillrun - I think the sentence is probably correct in order to send a message out that abuse of trust is a serious offence.

The usual prurient sniggering occurs, but hopefully this will be kept to a minimum.

[Mamyalynne]

ymb - that is my experience and you are at liberty to disagree.

[youngmafbog]

Havn't the laws, and attutudes changed in the last 30 years though?

The problem I have with a lot of these historical cases is that things that were borderline acceptable and now are not are judged by today's standards. By that I mean that if this had come to court in the 80's would that sentence have been received? I very much doubt it meaning we are applying todays standards to the past.

[youngmafbog]

Well being a bloke, and having been a teenage boy, I know what I like and a bag of spanners is not among them

[Ric.ror]

Even in her 20's she should not have been having relations with 13 year olds

[youngmafbog]

Correct, I am asking about sentences then though.

[Mamyalynne]

We are now in danger of being sidetracked, maybe you have seen a picture of the lady at that age - I haven't.

I went to school with girls who longed for and one or two did, have dalliances with male teachers who were no pin ups.

However they had style, sophistication and a nice car - shallow? Yes they were.


I maintain this sentence appears about right.

[youngmafbog]

//I maintain this sentence appears about right.//

Right for now or right for then?

And BTW, most boys go on looks (except at closing time when you have not copped off or you have beer goggles on) - yes very shallow- but that's life.

[andy-hughes]

YMB - ////I maintain this sentence appears about right.//

Right for now or right for then?

And BTW, most boys go on looks (except at closing time when you have not copped off or you have beer goggles on) - yes very shallow- but that's life. //

I'm teetotal, so that's never been my life!!! LOL!